nixluva wrote:Another explanation of the concept.

Secondly, there are a plethora of teams that carry an undesirable and unfavorable contract that they would love to unload.

Part of the negotiation could entail the Magic accepting one or more of these contracts but requiring the opposing team/s to include draft picks as part of the trade.

It’s particularly attractive if Orlando negotiates with teams that are potentially draft lottery bound this year and the pick/s are unprotected or have minimal protection.

So for example, if Team Z has a player with $30 million left on his contract over the next two seasons and desperately wants to eliminate this contract from its payroll to avoid luxury tax penalties or simply to evade the salary cap line, this team may consider relinquishing a high first round draft pick just so they can rid themselves of this financial obligation.

It’s apparent the Magic don’t want to steepen its payroll too much over the next few years, but it could be extremely advantageous to bite the bullet, accept the “overpaid” player just so they can gain one or more high future first round draft picks.

Here is a look at some players that have uninviting contracts, but with Orlando’s trade exception, could be valuable in also netting high draft picks. And keep in mind; the idea with this list is not at all focused on what these players would necessarily offer the Magic on the court, but what the potential reward would be with Orlando’s trade exception.

Carlos Boozer (owed $47 million over three years) – While Boozer’s contract is extremely unflattering from a salary cap standpoint, would Chicago be willing to send as many as two unprotected future first round picks in a deal involving the underachieving power forward?

With Derrick Rose out indefinitely, it would seem possible that the Bulls could miss the playoffs entirely this year and would be headed for the draft lottery next June.

Boozer’s contract would destroy Orlando’s quest to be well under the salary cap for the next two years, but hypothetically, would you accept that if you were given a top 10 draft pick? Bear in mind, nonetheless, the Bulls still can use the one-time amnesty provision on Boozer after this season. But while his contract would not count toward the team’s salary cap if Chicago chose this option, the Bulls would then be forced to still pay Boozer.

Andrea Bargnani (owed $33 million over next three years) – Just like the Boozer theory, Bargnani would shatter the Magic’s chase to be well under the cap for the next couple of years.

However, one would assume Toronto will not make the playoffs this season and if the Raptors were willing to surrender an unprotected draft pick in 2013, again, would you be willing to sacrifice cap spending for a high lottery draft pick?

Emeka Okafor (owed $27 million over next two years) – Another team with another potentially high draft pick in 2013. The Wizards are certainly not expected to advance to the playoffs this season, but would probably crave to eradicate Okafor despite trading for him this past summer.

Washington already has Nene at center so the presence of Okafor seems illogical. But would the Wizards be eager to trade an unprotected draft pick to rid themselves of Okafor’s contract?

David Lee (owed $55 million over next four years) – Considering the amount of years remaining on Lee’s deal, one would probably want more than one draft pick in any trade.

With Lee still being a very formidable power forward, however, you have to flirt with this idea especially if Golden State was willing to capitulate multiple first round draft picks in a deal involving the former Florida Gator.

And again, one would assume the Warriors would be headed back to the draft lottery after this season.

These are just some examples of players with inauspicious contracts that could enable the Magic to obtain more future first round draft picks if that was the route they chose to travel.

More realistically, rather than the aforementioned list it’s more likely Orlando would only accept a player/s with far less money remaining on his deal so it doesn’t harm its cap situation.

However, one would assume that teams would not relinquish unprotected lottery picks unless they were able to stamp out those substantial, salary cap-damaging contracts.

It remains to be seen if Orlando decides to use its considerable trade exception by next August. But, it would seem valuable to consider it if it nets a star free agent via sign-and-trade next July or future draft picks that could continue to help the Magic rebuild.

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/cohen-trade-exception-could-end-helping-magic-multiple-ways_101512

The link provides an excellent explanation. I think you accidentally cut and pasted the tail-end of the link that isn't pertinent.

VCoug wrote:

nixluva wrote:Another explanation of the concept.

Secondly, there are a plethora of teams that carry an undesirable and unfavorable contract that they would love to unload.

Part of the negotiation could entail the Magic accepting one or more of these contracts but requiring the opposing team/s to include draft picks as part of the trade.

It’s particularly attractive if Orlando negotiates with teams that are potentially draft lottery bound this year and the pick/s are unprotected or have minimal protection.

So for example, if Team Z has a player with $30 million left on his contract over the next two seasons and desperately wants to eliminate this contract from its payroll to avoid luxury tax penalties or simply to evade the salary cap line, this team may consider relinquishing a high first round draft pick just so they can rid themselves of this financial obligation.

It’s apparent the Magic don’t want to steepen its payroll too much over the next few years, but it could be extremely advantageous to bite the bullet, accept the “overpaid” player just so they can gain one or more high future first round draft picks.

Here is a look at some players that have uninviting contracts, but with Orlando’s trade exception, could be valuable in also netting high draft picks. And keep in mind; the idea with this list is not at all focused on what these players would necessarily offer the Magic on the court, but what the potential reward would be with Orlando’s trade exception.

Carlos Boozer (owed $47 million over three years) – While Boozer’s contract is extremely unflattering from a salary cap standpoint, would Chicago be willing to send as many as two unprotected future first round picks in a deal involving the underachieving power forward?

With Derrick Rose out indefinitely, it would seem possible that the Bulls could miss the playoffs entirely this year and would be headed for the draft lottery next June.

Boozer’s contract would destroy Orlando’s quest to be well under the salary cap for the next two years, but hypothetically, would you accept that if you were given a top 10 draft pick? Bear in mind, nonetheless, the Bulls still can use the one-time amnesty provision on Boozer after this season. But while his contract would not count toward the team’s salary cap if Chicago chose this option, the Bulls would then be forced to still pay Boozer.

Andrea Bargnani (owed $33 million over next three years) – Just like the Boozer theory, Bargnani would shatter the Magic’s chase to be well under the cap for the next couple of years.

However, one would assume Toronto will not make the playoffs this season and if the Raptors were willing to surrender an unprotected draft pick in 2013, again, would you be willing to sacrifice cap spending for a high lottery draft pick?

Emeka Okafor (owed $27 million over next two years) – Another team with another potentially high draft pick in 2013. The Wizards are certainly not expected to advance to the playoffs this season, but would probably crave to eradicate Okafor despite trading for him this past summer.

Washington already has Nene at center so the presence of Okafor seems illogical. But would the Wizards be eager to trade an unprotected draft pick to rid themselves of Okafor’s contract?

David Lee (owed $55 million over next four years) – Considering the amount of years remaining on Lee’s deal, one would probably want more than one draft pick in any trade.

With Lee still being a very formidable power forward, however, you have to flirt with this idea especially if Golden State was willing to capitulate multiple first round draft picks in a deal involving the former Florida Gator.

And again, one would assume the Warriors would be headed back to the draft lottery after this season.

These are just some examples of players with inauspicious contracts that could enable the Magic to obtain more future first round draft picks if that was the route they chose to travel.

More realistically, rather than the aforementioned list it’s more likely Orlando would only accept a player/s with far less money remaining on his deal so it doesn’t harm its cap situation.

However, one would assume that teams would not relinquish unprotected lottery picks unless they were able to stamp out those substantial, salary cap-damaging contracts.

It remains to be seen if Orlando decides to use its considerable trade exception by next August. But, it would seem valuable to consider it if it nets a star free agent via sign-and-trade next July or future draft picks that could continue to help the Magic rebuild.

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/cohen-trade-exception-could-end-helping-magic-multiple-ways_101512

Dude, you don't need to explain the concept. Most everyone understands the concept. We had tons of discussion during the season about trading our expiring players, Amare and Bargs, to teams for cap relief and picks. But then, it was about trading for guys that suck and have large contracts: Josh Smith, Gerald Wallace, Lance Stephenson. Now, people on this thread are talking about getting good basketball players on reasonable contracts and draft picks as well.

Well, there are some who still think there's a catch. There isn't.

Yes, during the season there was talk about trading our players who weren't winning anything in NY for cap relief and picks. That is what happened to the degree it was possible. We do have cap room and newly acquired future second-rounders.

This conversation is a little different. NY is one of the last teams standing who have the ability to take back a failing contract off the hands of teams who so loaded up with expensive players that they can no longer do the things they might want to do this summer. Many have overspent and want to resign their own players as well as wheel and deal but have no wiggle room to do so. The second characteristic of such teams might be that they are rising contenders who want nothing to do with a draft pick who has no chance of seeing playing time AND will further complicate their cap structure with a guaranteed contract. For the Knicks to make such a deal that will eat some cap space and introduce a down-trodden player the sending team needs to have a reasonably good draft pick to sweeten the deal - preferably this year.

Charlotte, Miami, and OKC fit that criteria. And they have unwanted baggage that's interesting. There may be other teams who have future picks.

It's always possible that nobody wants to deal.

The other scenario is that these exceptions extend our ability to sign free agents, say, $27M + about $11.5M. That's a lot of available FA coin.

TripleThreat wrote:

fwk00 wrote:I wrote the blog.

This still doesn't mean that I'm not an irresponsible blogger poking peoples' imagination, indignation, and knowledge. I'm guilty on all counts. So what?

Again, my guess is that playing the game of attacking the messenger (Me) is your way of saying, "If these trade exceptions actually work and are worth something - maybe Phil knows what he's doing, Isiah isn't the antichrist, and our team actually "has a chance"".

If you write intended for the public and then you actually have the balls to keep shilling your site and blog here, then be prepared to have your incorrect assertions and scenarios pointed out to you.

That's not an attack on you. That's someone pointing out that you, while desiring to get a following from Knicks fandom, have an actual responsibility to write and post information that is CORRECT according the the current NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. Which could have easily been done if you had even bothered to research and read in detail the CBA before you wrote all that.

Instead of actually learning from the experience, all you've got is this mealy mouth trite justification of why you are suggesting the Knicks try to conduct illegal trades while amassing a viewership/readership for yourself.

1) You are here to shill for you own site/blog. Fact

2) You clearly want to write about the Knicks and the NBA, but you clearly don't fully understand the current Collective Bargaining Agreement. Fact

3) When this is pointed out to you, facts, you play the victim card, hide behind the ESPN Trade Machine ( which has a disclaimer that it is not an exhaustive resource) instead of acting like a professional. Fact.

Have the balls to just say "Upon review, I was wrong, my apologies to Knicks fandom whom I might have unintentionally mislead with my information. I will use this as an opportunity to learn so I can provide a better blog/site for the benefit and entertainment of Knicks fans everywhere. Thanks"

It could have been that simple.

Do you realize how sad it is that the concept of professional integrity actually needs to be explained to you?

Professional what?

So ESPN whose sole purpose on this planet is to lighten your wallet because they are the experts on sports admit they don't know it all and *YOU* think I should trump their sorry azzes because... -wait for it- I write a non-profit blog. and by non-profit I don't mean a well-paid organization that hides where the money goes.

Fact: I have fans of my site who live in countries where my content cannot be viewed. So those rare articles get attributed to my humble blog that attracts a world-wide audience of... um... a handful of fans who know me, think more of my writing than you do, and who aren't mistaking me for a basketball God.

Fact: I don't waste a second of my time reading the Collective Bargaining Agreement because it don't mean shat to me. I've been around long enough to know that Trade Exceptions are legitimate currency in the NBA and as such the lawyers and accountants keep their jobs by making the donuts. What I tell you you can take to the funny money NBA bank. The Knicks have loot to spend and they will spend it if they so choose.

You can piss and moan about this fact all you like, "What about! What about? But, but, but...". Don't mean a thing. You have been so conditioned to hate on the Knicks - your own team- that you cannot see the positives anymore.

Fact: I still trust ESPN as a source of truthiness.

Explain again what professional responsibility I have to satisfy your demands.

Nada.