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Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
4/24/2015 6:11 PM LAST EDITED: 4/24/2015 6:12 PM
CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Is there a system that has proven to work without star players?EwingsGlass wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Billups not sold on triangle: Jackson said he plans to use the triangle offense as a selling point with free agents this summer. At least one former NBA player thinks that’s a bad idea. ^^^^ |
SupremeCommander
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4/24/2015 7:31 PM LAST EDITED: 4/24/2015 7:33 PM
guys go to teams because of systems all of the time... just in different sports. if you have a certain skillset, you are drawn to a different system (college football comes to mind immediately). i think you will see a certain type of player be drawn to the triangle--primarily guys who share the ball. the handicap is obviously limiting the types of players you pursue. the benefit is that guys like Smush Parker looks like the goods.
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Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
4/24/2015 10:05 PM
CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Is there a system that has proven to work without star players?EwingsGlass wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Billups not sold on triangle: Jackson said he plans to use the triangle offense as a selling point with free agents this summer. At least one former NBA player thinks that’s a bad idea. Well if ATL wins it all, that's going to change the direction of how an NBA team is built. When SA won last yr every one started talking about thats the system to go with.. ES
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CrushAlot
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4/24/2015 10:12 PM
knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Is there a system that has proven to work without star players?EwingsGlass wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Billups not sold on triangle: Jackson said he plans to use the triangle offense as a selling point with free agents this summer. At least one former NBA player thinks that’s a bad idea. Atlanta is having a tough time with the Nets. They might make the ecf but I don't see them making the finals. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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tj23
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4/24/2015 10:23 PM
The triangle features post ups. It has nothing to do with Ok4. But for a guards game I have the same issues about the triangle. It just needs some tweaking.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/24/2015 10:37 PM
The fact that ATL plays team ball and wins without a top 15 Star in the NBA actually is a good sign for the Knicks. It just shows that we can build a team that can win playing team ball. It seems more realistic that Phil can bring in solid Free Agents this summer and they don't have to be the rare elite of the NBA.
Phil can focus on talent and fit for how we want to play. Also Phil has been starting to establish our farm system this year. As time goes on we should start stockpiling talent to develop. It's a process that will take time but we have already started the process. The Triangle will not be an issue. |
newyorknewyork
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4/25/2015 7:49 AM
tj23 wrote:The triangle features post ups. It has nothing to do with Ok4. But for a guards game I have the same issues about the triangle. It just needs some tweaking. No matter what system you have you always need a guard or wing who can create with the ball. The Bulls won without an offensively gifted stud big man. There first Championship they had Grant & Cartwright. With Pippen the Small Forward acting as the PG. Its possible for a real PG to be given the same responsibilities as Pippen if he had the game for it. While the SF would take the role of Paxon, Armstrong, Kerr providing efficient shooting and ball movement. Jordan and Pippen were versatile and dominant though that it reduced the responsibilities of the centers & guards around them. And to be clear my point isn't that we can just go a build a team like that. My point is that it all comes down to balance of skill sets. Positions don't really mean to much. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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knicks1248
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4/25/2015 1:34 PM LAST EDITED: 4/25/2015 1:38 PM
nixluva wrote:The fact that ATL plays team ball and wins without a top 15 Star in the NBA actually is a good sign for the Knicks. It just shows that we can build a team that can win playing team ball. It seems more realistic that Phil can bring in solid Free Agents this summer and they don't have to be the rare elite of the NBA. Don't forget, ATL's core was in place, they added a couple of pieces to complete the puzzle. If phil can add 5 guys and keeps the rest of the roster.. starters Draft pick Acy That team will be able to compete with anyone and deep enough. I would prefer some old school guys at the end of the bench, like a KT or wallace, perkins type, you need those type of professionals in your locker room. That will surey put us back in the playoff picture ES
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nixluva
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4/25/2015 2:21 PM
knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:The fact that ATL plays team ball and wins without a top 15 Star in the NBA actually is a good sign for the Knicks. It just shows that we can build a team that can win playing team ball. It seems more realistic that Phil can bring in solid Free Agents this summer and they don't have to be the rare elite of the NBA. I've written about this many times. The Hawks in one year added Millsap, Carroll, Schroder and the year previous they had added Korver. Those players comprise a huge part of the core of their top 6 rotation. Their top home grown players being Horford and Teague.
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JrZyHuStLa
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4/25/2015 3:05 PM
knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Billups not sold on triangle: Jackson said he plans to use the triangle offense as a selling point with free agents this summer. At least one former NBA player thinks that’s a bad idea. PG driven league? How? Since 1990, the only point guards worth mentioning that were on championship teams are Parker, Billups and Rondo, who sucks now by the way. The NBA will always be about stars rather than positions. My fact has fully debunked your nonsense. |
knicks1248
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4/25/2015 5:06 PM LAST EDITED: 4/25/2015 5:07 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Billups not sold on triangle: Jackson said he plans to use the triangle offense as a selling point with free agents this summer. At least one former NBA player thinks that’s a bad idea.
Those guards may not have a bunch of championships, but make no mistake, you have to go through them night in and night out. SO THERE"S NOTHING NONSENSE ABOUT IT..This ain't the damn 90's, the game has change..WAKE UP. We saw Kidd, and felton get eaten up alive almost every night ES
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EwingsGlass
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4/25/2015 9:09 PM
knicks1248 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Billups not sold on triangle: Jackson said he plans to use the triangle offense as a selling point with free agents this summer. At least one former NBA player thinks that’s a bad idea. Only two of the players you mentioned have rings...both are nearly retired. This is the Randle.
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nixluva
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4/25/2015 9:33 PM
Phil has won with superior SG,SF,PF and C's. He's never had an elite PG. If he had one I'm guessing he would tweak things to feature that player. We still don't have an elite PG and it's likely we won't get one this summer. If you don't have one this is one of the best offenses to run if you don't have an elite PG.
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