crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If you read about Lamarcus--you would know there is 0/1000 chance he is coming here. He will take the bigger money from Portland or he will play in Texas. Id still bet on the money. Exactly why would he come to NY? His entire family is in Texas and all 3 teams have cap space.

Also, with the money that he gets paid no state income tax in Texas makes it a much more lucrative place for him to sign.

Well, he'd have to choose to either replace Tim Duncan or team up with Dirk, which would be an awkward fit. Houston doesn't have cap room at present.

Knicks will be in the running if he chooses to leave Portland. Again, the FA market is pretty moot until the draft shakes out.

Aldridge is 100% signing with POR until now all of a sudden? This is just another case of a FA using the Knicks rabid pursuit of any top free agent as a way to increase their leverage and bargaining power. Nothing more. If he leaves POR hes going to San Antonio. He wants to compete for a chip coming to NY (for less money) doesn't get him closer to a chip.

H1AND1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If you read about Lamarcus--you would know there is 0/1000 chance he is coming here. He will take the bigger money from Portland or he will play in Texas. Id still bet on the money. Exactly why would he come to NY? His entire family is in Texas and all 3 teams have cap space.

Also, with the money that he gets paid no state income tax in Texas makes it a much more lucrative place for him to sign.

Well, he'd have to choose to either replace Tim Duncan or team up with Dirk, which would be an awkward fit. Houston doesn't have cap room at present.

Knicks will be in the running if he chooses to leave Portland. Again, the FA market is pretty moot until the draft shakes out.

Aldridge is 100% signing with POR until now all of a sudden? This is just another case of a FA using the Knicks rabid pursuit of any top free agent as a way to increase their leverage and bargaining power. Nothing more. If he leaves POR hes going to San Antonio. He wants to compete for a chip coming to NY (for less money) doesn't get him closer to a chip.

knickscity wrote:The days of this alleged "NY power" is a myth, look around the NBA. The stars are all over the TV in commercials and stuff now, and none of them are in NY. Does Blake, Curry, Chris Paul need NY to be in State farm commercial? No. Lebron doesnt need NY either. Kobe never has. Does Durant make more from Sprint if he plays in NY? No. These player dont need the fantasy of what playing in NY offers. it's a myth. if you're good, endorsements and business opportunities are gonna come your way. Westbrook got his deal from true Religion because he's a "unique style of dress" type player.

NY wasnt and isnt required.

Where are the Aldridge, Gssol and Cousins commercials? Some players do need the boost you can get from a big market. Hardly anyone knows those other players. If you were the agent for Aldridge do you think it would help to suddenly gain millions of Knicks fans?

Top 15 Most Popular NBA Jerseys:

LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat
Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
John Wall, Washington Wizards
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers

Top 10 Most Popular Team Merchandise:

Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Oklahoma City Thunder
San Antonio Spurs
New York Knicks
Miami Heat
Boston Celtics
Los Angeles Clippers

This is with the Knick losing.

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:The days of this alleged "NY power" is a myth, look around the NBA. The stars are all over the TV in commercials and stuff now, and none of them are in NY. Does Blake, Curry, Chris Paul need NY to be in State farm commercial? No. Lebron doesnt need NY either. Kobe never has. Does Durant make more from Sprint if he plays in NY? No. These player dont need the fantasy of what playing in NY offers. it's a myth. if you're good, endorsements and business opportunities are gonna come your way. Westbrook got his deal from true Religion because he's a "unique style of dress" type player.

NY wasnt and isnt required.

Wouldn't you include LA as a market where guys would get more endorsements? Take thos guys out and the list is Durant, LeBron and I guess Curry.

Heck even Curry is in a big market

1. Knicks/Nets 22,232,000
3. Lakers/Clippers 17,820,000
5. Bulls 9,804,000
6. Celtics 7,609,000
7. Warriors 7,427,000
8. Mavericks 6,805,000
9. 76'ers 6,533,000
10. Rockets 5,968,000
11. Hawks 5,831,000
12. Heat 5,547,000
13. Raptors 5,500,000
14. Wizards 5,400,000
15. Pistons 5,327,000

mreinman wrote:LA looks great tonight ... just another playoff beauty

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:The days of this alleged "NY power" is a myth, look around the NBA. The stars are all over the TV in commercials and stuff now, and none of them are in NY. Does Blake, Curry, Chris Paul need NY to be in State farm commercial? No. Lebron doesnt need NY either. Kobe never has. Does Durant make more from Sprint if he plays in NY? No. These player dont need the fantasy of what playing in NY offers. it's a myth. if you're good, endorsements and business opportunities are gonna come your way. Westbrook got his deal from true Religion because he's a "unique style of dress" type player.

NY wasnt and isnt required.

Where are the Aldridge, Gssol and Cousins commercials? Some players do need the boost you can get from a big market. Hardly anyone knows those other players. If you were the agent for Aldridge do you think it would help to suddenly gain millions of Knicks fans?

Top 15 Most Popular NBA Jerseys:

LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat
Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
John Wall, Washington Wizards
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers

Top 10 Most Popular Team Merchandise:

Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Oklahoma City Thunder
San Antonio Spurs
New York Knicks
Miami Heat
Boston Celtics
Los Angeles Clippers

This is with the Knick losing.

Now lets stick to the actual point.....endorsements.

LeBron James: $42 million (Nike)

Kobe Bryant: $34 million (Nike)

Derrick Rose: $21 million (Adidas)

Kevin Durant: $14 million (Nike)

Dwyane Wade: $12 million (Li Ning)

Carmelo Anthony: $9 million (Jordan/Nike)

Amar’e Stoudemire: $6.5 million (Nike)

Dwight Howard: $6 million (Adidas)

Blake Griffin: $6 million (Jordan/Nike)

Chris Paul: $4 million (Jordan/Nike)

This is what players have made from their endorsements, now here is something that is startling....

New York's finest surprisingly comes in at No.1. Carmelo Anthony said that he was not about the money, but he's picked up 15 sponsors. He's trying to make a splash next to the likes of LeBron and Kobe. Melo has deals with Nike's Jordan Brand, Foot Locker, IWC, Steiner Sports, Mission, Samsung, PowerCoco, Haute Watches, Jeep, SMS Audio, Isotonix, Delta, Degree deodorant, Locker Room and Starwood.

However, Melo is only making $ 9 million in all.

Melo's name is in a lot of places....but he aint making the coin.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:The days of this alleged "NY power" is a myth, look around the NBA. The stars are all over the TV in commercials and stuff now, and none of them are in NY. Does Blake, Curry, Chris Paul need NY to be in State farm commercial? No. Lebron doesnt need NY either. Kobe never has. Does Durant make more from Sprint if he plays in NY? No. These player dont need the fantasy of what playing in NY offers. it's a myth. if you're good, endorsements and business opportunities are gonna come your way. Westbrook got his deal from true Religion because he's a "unique style of dress" type player.

NY wasnt and isnt required.

Where are the Aldridge, Gssol and Cousins commercials? Some players do need the boost you can get from a big market. Hardly anyone knows those other players. If you were the agent for Aldridge do you think it would help to suddenly gain millions of Knicks fans?

Top 15 Most Popular NBA Jerseys:

LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat
Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
John Wall, Washington Wizards
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers

Top 10 Most Popular Team Merchandise:

Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Oklahoma City Thunder
San Antonio Spurs
New York Knicks
Miami Heat
Boston Celtics
Los Angeles Clippers

This is with the Knick losing.

We're talking about endorsements right? Why did you just post jersey sales and team merchandise? The Knicks are popular because NY has alot of traffic in population and tourists, it will always be a hot ticket. The point still stands....no player NEEDS NY to improve their endorsements, if you're good those companies will seek you out no matter where you play.

Now lets stick to the actual point.....endorsements.

LeBron James: $42 million (Nike)

Kobe Bryant: $34 million (Nike)

Derrick Rose: $21 million (Adidas)

Kevin Durant: $14 million (Nike)

Dwyane Wade: $12 million (Li Ning)

Carmelo Anthony: $9 million (Jordan/Nike)

Amar’e Stoudemire: $6.5 million (Nike)

Dwight Howard: $6 million (Adidas)

Blake Griffin: $6 million (Jordan/Nike)

Chris Paul: $4 million (Jordan/Nike)

This is what players have made from their endorsements, now here is something that is startling....

New York's finest surprisingly comes in at No.1. Carmelo Anthony said that he was not about the money, but he's picked up 15 sponsors. He's trying to make a splash next to the likes of LeBron and Kobe. Melo has deals with Nike's Jordan Brand, Foot Locker, IWC, Steiner Sports, Mission, Samsung, PowerCoco, Haute Watches, Jeep, SMS Audio, Isotonix, Delta, Degree deodorant, Locker Room and Starwood.

However, Melo is only making $ 9 million in all.

Melo's name is in a lot of places....but he aint making the coin.

The only players you have above Melo are current or former league MVPs and champions though. You basically have to win several rings, MVPs, or both outside NYC to get the big endorsements.

But I get your point and it kinda proves mine....if you're a good player those endorsements are gonna come to you no matter where you reside.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:The days of this alleged "NY power" is a myth, look around the NBA. The stars are all over the TV in commercials and stuff now, and none of them are in NY. Does Blake, Curry, Chris Paul need NY to be in State farm commercial? No. Lebron doesnt need NY either. Kobe never has. Does Durant make more from Sprint if he plays in NY? No. These player dont need the fantasy of what playing in NY offers. it's a myth. if you're good, endorsements and business opportunities are gonna come your way. Westbrook got his deal from true Religion because he's a "unique style of dress" type player.

NY wasnt and isnt required.

Where are the Aldridge, Gssol and Cousins commercials? Some players do need the boost you can get from a big market. Hardly anyone knows those other players. If you were the agent for Aldridge do you think it would help to suddenly gain millions of Knicks fans?

Top 15 Most Popular NBA Jerseys:

LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat
Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
John Wall, Washington Wizards
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers

Top 10 Most Popular Team Merchandise:

Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Oklahoma City Thunder
San Antonio Spurs
New York Knicks
Miami Heat
Boston Celtics
Los Angeles Clippers

This is with the Knick losing.

We're talking about endorsements right? Why did you just post jersey sales and team merchandise? The Knicks are popular because NY has alot of traffic in population and tourists, it will always be a hot ticket. The point still stands....no player NEEDS NY to improve their endorsements, if you're good those companies will seek you out no matter where you play.

Now lets stick to the actual point.....endorsements.

LeBron James: $42 million (Nike)

Kobe Bryant: $34 million (Nike)

Derrick Rose: $21 million (Adidas)

Kevin Durant: $14 million (Nike)

Dwyane Wade: $12 million (Li Ning)

Carmelo Anthony: $9 million (Jordan/Nike)

Amar’e Stoudemire: $6.5 million (Nike)

Dwight Howard: $6 million (Adidas)

Blake Griffin: $6 million (Jordan/Nike)

Chris Paul: $4 million (Jordan/Nike)

This is what players have made from their endorsements, now here is something that is startling....

New York's finest surprisingly comes in at No.1. Carmelo Anthony said that he was not about the money, but he's picked up 15 sponsors. He's trying to make a splash next to the likes of LeBron and Kobe. Melo has deals with Nike's Jordan Brand, Foot Locker, IWC, Steiner Sports, Mission, Samsung, PowerCoco, Haute Watches, Jeep, SMS Audio, Isotonix, Delta, Degree deodorant, Locker Room and Starwood.

However, Melo is only making $ 9 million in all.

Melo's name is in a lot of places....but he aint making the coin.

The only players you have above Melo are current or former league MVPs and champions though. You basically have to win several rings, MVPs, or both outside NYC to get the big endorsements.

9 mil is low if claiming being in NY is where it is. The majority of that came from his Jordan branded shoe which he had PRIOR to NY. I will say Melo has had more investment opportunities, but at the end of the day making the coin is what matters. Speaking of commercials and stuff, you dont really see melo's commercials outside of nY and that hurts his brand as well.

But I get your point and it kinda proves mine....if you're a good player those endorsements are gonna come to you no matter where you reside.

Well I think that's easily enough to outweigh the extra taxes you pay during the 41 home games a year, which is why this whole conversation came up.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:The days of this alleged "NY power" is a myth, look around the NBA. The stars are all over the TV in commercials and stuff now, and none of them are in NY. Does Blake, Curry, Chris Paul need NY to be in State farm commercial? No. Lebron doesnt need NY either. Kobe never has. Does Durant make more from Sprint if he plays in NY? No. These player dont need the fantasy of what playing in NY offers. it's a myth. if you're good, endorsements and business opportunities are gonna come your way. Westbrook got his deal from true Religion because he's a "unique style of dress" type player.

NY wasnt and isnt required.

Where are the Aldridge, Gssol and Cousins commercials? Some players do need the boost you can get from a big market. Hardly anyone knows those other players. If you were the agent for Aldridge do you think it would help to suddenly gain millions of Knicks fans?

Top 15 Most Popular NBA Jerseys:

LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat
Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
John Wall, Washington Wizards
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers

Top 10 Most Popular Team Merchandise:

Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Oklahoma City Thunder
San Antonio Spurs
New York Knicks
Miami Heat
Boston Celtics
Los Angeles Clippers

This is with the Knick losing.

We're talking about endorsements right? Why did you just post jersey sales and team merchandise? The Knicks are popular because NY has alot of traffic in population and tourists, it will always be a hot ticket. The point still stands....no player NEEDS NY to improve their endorsements, if you're good those companies will seek you out no matter where you play.

Now lets stick to the actual point.....endorsements.

LeBron James: $42 million (Nike)

Kobe Bryant: $34 million (Nike)

Derrick Rose: $21 million (Adidas)

Kevin Durant: $14 million (Nike)

Dwyane Wade: $12 million (Li Ning)

Carmelo Anthony: $9 million (Jordan/Nike)

Amar’e Stoudemire: $6.5 million (Nike)

Dwight Howard: $6 million (Adidas)

Blake Griffin: $6 million (Jordan/Nike)

Chris Paul: $4 million (Jordan/Nike)

This is what players have made from their endorsements, now here is something that is startling....

New York's finest surprisingly comes in at No.1. Carmelo Anthony said that he was not about the money, but he's picked up 15 sponsors. He's trying to make a splash next to the likes of LeBron and Kobe. Melo has deals with Nike's Jordan Brand, Foot Locker, IWC, Steiner Sports, Mission, Samsung, PowerCoco, Haute Watches, Jeep, SMS Audio, Isotonix, Delta, Degree deodorant, Locker Room and Starwood.

However, Melo is only making $ 9 million in all.

Melo's name is in a lot of places....but he aint making the coin.

The only players you have above Melo are current or former league MVPs and champions though. You basically have to win several rings, MVPs, or both outside NYC to get the big endorsements.

9 mil is low if claiming being in NY is where it is. The majority of that came from his Jordan branded shoe which he had PRIOR to NY. I will say Melo has had more investment opportunities, but at the end of the day making the coin is what matters. Speaking of commercials and stuff, you dont really see melo's commercials outside of nY and that hurts his brand as well.

But I get your point and it kinda proves mine....if you're a good player those endorsements are gonna come to you no matter where you reside.

Well I think that's easily enough to outweigh the extra taxes you pay during the 41 home games a year, which is why this whole conversation came up.

His endorsement money is taxed as a resident of NY, so he pays full tax on that, so not really sure if it offsets anything. Melo may get more in total than quite a few, but his take away isnt more due to the taxes, and he's involved in quite alot of investments that are giving small returns. NY isnt exactly helping him.

The estimates I've seen are that he pays about 1 to 2 mil a year in extra taxes for NY state and NYC. That 1 to 2 mil is then deducted from his federal income taxes, though. I'd definitely think a company like Nike would offer 9 instead of 8 mil if the guy is in NYC instead of Texas or Denver. I think it would make a MUCH bigger difference than that actually. If he didn't plan his shoe deal out to coincide with free agency and is stuck in an earlier deal, that's a side issue. An FA who plans to come to NYC and has a good agent wouldn't let that happen.