knickscity wrote:

smackeddog wrote:
Just out of interest, who do you prefer Kevin Love or Aldridge?

i actually prefer Love, but he hasnt looked too good this season.

He has not looked AS good as last season but he has actually had a very good / productive season.

RonRon wrote:LA excels in the MID RANGE, which is a skill that is needed in the Triangle
He shoots the mid range effectively but has the ability to score effecitvely in the post, while shooting a near 50% for majority of his career, while adding 3pt range this year as well
In today's game, having the ability to stretch the floor is much needed in order to allow penetration to be an easy option for high % shot's as a weapon or leading to wide open shots

We must remember, he opted to NOT have surgery and is playing with an injury for the better of the team
While he is also a solid rebounding and decent shot blocker, his SHOT simply CANNOT be defended because of his high release point and size/length

Problem is, LA is ALL STAR caliber at OFFENSE but isn't a leader that Lilliard provided as a young rookie
So if we are do sign LA in FA thi summer, we could sign Ajincia or draft Towns/OK4 who I both believe will be closer to Center's than PF's for their careers

CA
LA
Ajincia/Towns

could all form a triangle together as all are able to play inside and out, as long as the other 2 players can shoot, as they will also have the lanes to penetrate effetively

CA
LA or Brook Lopez
Russell or Mudiay Marion Henzjoa/Justice Winslow

PG , PG/SG, SG, G/F like Danny Green/Wesley Matthewws along with Thanasis/Wesley Johnson/Gereld Green, a F like Carroll

Ajincia

Thanasis on opponents PG's with Danny Green/Wesley Matthewws/Caroll acquired with a 6m MLE or dividing it for multiple players with a small portion 1 rookie contract *like THanasiss* and 2 other solid role at aout 2-3m per year after raises on multi year deals like Gereld Green/Wesley Johnson/Derrick Williams *using Evan Turner's contract to justify the payroll or like Sessions - Bayless
Russell SG/PG, as he develops to a Curry type role, when playing PG, Russell could also learn to initiate the OFFENSE through the POST at his size/skills

CA
LA or Millsap

Ajinicia

I'd either trade down for D'Angelo Russell or draft him outright.

And why couldn't we sign both LaMarcus Aldridge and Greg Monroe, then throw our mini-mid level exception at Alexis Ajinca? With that kind of length at the forward/center spots, I think we'd successfully eliminate our defensive and rebounding issues, while still maintaining a good amount of floor spacing. Doing so leaves little room to improve our backcourt but I'm more than content with bringing back our current guys (Galloway, Shved, Thansis and Ledo) on minimum deals. And with THJr as well as Calderon under contract, I'd be more than content with rolling into the season with that and whatever D-league finds we'd uncover.

STARTERS
D'Angelo Russell...PG
Langston Galloway...SG
Carmelo Anthony...SF
LaMarcus Aldridge...PF
Greg Monroe...C

ROTATION
Jose Calderon...PG
Alexy Shved...G
Lance Thomas...SF
Louis Amundson...PF
Alexis Ajinca...C

holfresh wrote:I'm not sure if big name free agents will look at the Knicks as a destination to win now...The role players are an important piece to a puzzle when building a team..I'm not sure if we can say we have the right role players in place to attract a big name..It's not easy to get such players which is why Cleveland paid two first round picks to get Moz...It was absolutely dumb luck that they landed JR and Shump..

But as a duo, Melo and Aldridge can work well together in Phil's system..

Didn't Miami fill out most of its role players after the big 3 signed and with little cap room?

I think we would be fine, just need to get some top talent to sign and a good pick. The role players will come b

SupremeCommander wrote:we should've just drafted him

At first I didnt want any of the 30 year old max guys. We have one of those already, but this team and roster is going to be pretty young, and you need balance. Aldridge or Gasol for 4 years makes sense. You need pros who know how to win. Melo alone isnt enough. The draft pick is going to a 20 year old kid, or even 19 if its Russell. Galloway is young and he's a rotation guy. Shved, Thanisis, Early, whoever comes back is going to be young. There will be a couple very good seniors who go undrafted and will be good role players in the NBA. Young.

We need a balance.

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:we should've just drafted him

lol... yea well 8 years later we are still sifting through Isiah's bad deals.

At first I didnt want any of the 30 year old max guys. We have one of those already, but this team and roster is going to be pretty young, and you need balance. Aldridge or Gasol for 4 years makes sense. You need pros who know how to win. Melo alone isnt enough. The draft pick is going to a 20 year old kid, or even 19 if its Russell. Galloway is young and he's a rotation guy. Shved, Thanisis, Early, whoever comes back is going to be young. There will be a couple very good seniors who go undrafted and will be good role players in the NBA. Young.

We need a balance.

knicks need leadership. gasol is likely a leader but slim and none he comes here. not all veterans are leaders.

There are many types of leaders and leadership, and some players follow some types and not others. What they need first and foremost is better play and better players. Who is the leader that took Atl from .500 and the 8th seed to the top of the East? Leadership is a barely tangible avenue for you to redirect any discussion into Melo's shortcomings. When the play improves and the roster is balanced the leadership will emerge. Its that simple.

fishmike wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

holfresh wrote:I'm not sure if big name free agents will look at the Knicks as a destination to win now...The role players are an important piece to a puzzle when building a team..I'm not sure if we can say we have the right role players in place to attract a big name..It's not easy to get such players which is why Cleveland paid two first round picks to get Moz...It was absolutely dumb luck that they landed JR and Shump..

But as a duo, Melo and Aldridge can work well together in Phil's system..

Didn't Miami fill out most of its role players after the big 3 signed and with little cap room?

I think we would be fine, just need to get some top talent to sign and a good pick. The role players will come b

Yea.. Miami had like Wade and a blank slate. They maxed out Lebron/Bosh and were left with nothing but min type contracts to give out. Somehow I remember them adding Mike Miller with an MLE type deal but Im not quite sure how they were able to do that.

Once you get to the cap or go slightly over it, but stay below the "apron" you get a mid-level exception.

Though with the cap rising again in 2016 and 2017, I doubt Phil will use a mid-level - I think he'll try to keep that $20M in space for 2016 and maybe 2017 as well.

That's the thing - if the Knicks can build a really good foundation this summer they can actually get to the point where signing one marquee FA in 2016 and 2017 makes them contenders. But Melo by then will be probably quite similar to Wade - not the player he once was.

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:we should've just drafted him

lol... yea well 8 years later we are still sifting through Isiah's bad deals.

At first I didnt want any of the 30 year old max guys. We have one of those already, but this team and roster is going to be pretty young, and you need balance. Aldridge or Gasol for 4 years makes sense. You need pros who know how to win. Melo alone isnt enough. The draft pick is going to a 20 year old kid, or even 19 if its Russell. Galloway is young and he's a rotation guy. Shved, Thanisis, Early, whoever comes back is going to be young. There will be a couple very good seniors who go undrafted and will be good role players in the NBA. Young.

We need a balance.

knicks need leadership. gasol is likely a leader but slim and none he comes here. not all veterans are leaders.

who was the leader when they won 54 games? I know you didnt bother watching much of that "fools gold" but they did win 50+, the division and advanced. Jason Kidd right TFK?

There are many types of leaders and leadership, and some players follow some types and not others. What they need first and foremost is better play and better players. Who is the leader that took Atl from .500 and the 8th seed to the top of the East? Leadership is a barely tangible avenue for you to redirect any discussion into Melo's shortcomings. When the play improves and the roster is balanced the leadership will emerge. Its that simple.

no that ain't gonna happen fishflop. sorry this isn't a movie. you can add this to my other quotables.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:aldridge with a very melo-like effort once again. yeeesh

The other 3 Blazers helping with the scoring were 13-44 combined..So yeah, he is like Melo in a lot of ways..

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:aldridge with a very melo-like effort once again. yeeesh

The other 3 Blazers helping with the scoring were 13-44 combined..So yeah, he is like Melo in a lot of ways..

Im afraid of repeating the melo and stat disaster, by adding these scoring bigs thats weak on defense.