nixluva wrote:Watching how Harden is able to get to the basket at will makes me think about having Mudiay in the 4th qtr of games. It was the reason I started this thread. Sometimes you need that big guard that can knife through great D and make things happen. If Mudiay can improve his shot he could be the star guard we've needed.

Melo can be in that Jordan/Kobe role. Mudiay has a chance to be that kind of threat. NOT SAYING HE'S MJ OR KOBE!

At four, you take this and he's untouchable - this is franchise talent. Same can be said for Russell. We don't lose either way.

fwk00 wrote:

nixluva wrote:Watching how Harden is able to get to the basket at will makes me think about having Mudiay in the 4th qtr of games. It was the reason I started this thread. Sometimes you need that big guard that can knife through great D and make things happen. If Mudiay can improve his shot he could be the star guard we've needed.

Melo can be in that Jordan/Kobe role. Mudiay has a chance to be that kind of threat. NOT SAYING HE'S MJ OR KOBE!

Look at Hardin and Westbrook. We have fans criticizing an 19 year old kid who is already a man-child for not playing like an offensive juggernaut. Fans need to get a grip. THIS IS A BIG, FEARLESS GUARD who is still growing. I have no problem in projecting this guy as a Lebron, Magic, or Jordan archetype assuming lady luck smiles on his health and he continues to work hard. He has the body, raw talent, and that insatiable desire to win - listen to this kid talk! He's nineteen and sounds exactly like Durant and Westbrook sounded the first time they made the playoffs and people discounted their ability to win.

At four, you take this and he's untouchable - this is franchise talent. Same can be said for Russell. We don't lose either way.

Yeah I started off thinking this way and I'm pretty much back thinking this is where we can take a player who can be a difference maker for us at the guard spot. He can make things easier for the rest of the team. We need that kind of driving force to the team. If you can't get the Franchise big then get the Franchise Big Guard.

nixluva wrote:
I've tried to explain this over and over but it seems that most aren't picking up what i'm saying. It's not the same as most other offenses. You overload one side of the floor and open up the other side for your 2 man game. Teams will be trying to stop Mudiay and Melo in the Pinch Post.

i hear what youre saying...overload the triangle on one side and play PNR with melo on the weakside. i can see that

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:I also found this insightful:

Top 2015 NBA Draft Prospects Per 40 Minutes (2014-15)
                 Team	         PTS	REB	AST	FG%	3FG%
Jahlil Okafor	 Duke	         23.1	11.5	1.8	.668	N/A
Karl Towns	 Kentucky	 19.5	12.7	2.2	.563	N/A
D'Angelo Russell Ohio State	 22.7	6.7	5.9	.449	.411
Emmanuel Mudiay	 Guangdong	 22.9	7.9	7.5	.478	.342

Just to put that in perspective, Will Bynum went there and averaged close to 25 PTS, 10 Assists per 40 after being a career bench player here. He then came back for a few weeks and didn't even look like he belonged in the NBA.

lol. great point about will bynum. i mean people say the CBA might be better than the NCAA but can we really say that?!!? i sincerely dont know the level of competition over there. but if the immortal will bynum is puting up steve nash numbers then i remain skeptical. lol

The break down talked about Mudiay's lack of shooting off the dribble. I disagree that the shots the clip highlighted were really off the dribble because Mudiay had plenty of time to stop, set, and shoot a brick. The earlier part of the breakdown where he was shooting while up in the air, in motion where closer to what I consider off the dribble. Those higlights showed promise.

Still haven't made up my mind who we should pick, but I do like Mudiay's PNR ability, his ability to see the floor, make a quick pass in motion, and his handle. The negatives in his game makes him a high risk, high reward player. With a gutted roster, don't know if thats what kind of player we should be picking at 4.

GustavBahler wrote:Using a number 4 pick on a PG who cant consistently hit a jumper concerns me. Sure there are PGs who had the same issue who turned out to be very good players, but its a big gamble with a gutted roster.

The break down talked about Mudiay's lack of shooting off the dribble. I disagree that the shots the clip highlighted were really off the dribble because Mudiay had plenty of time to stop, set, and shoot a brick. The earlier part of the breakdown where he was shooting while up in the air, in motion where closer to what I consider off the dribble. Those higlights showed promise.

Still haven't made up my mind who we should pick, but I do like Mudiay's PNR ability, his ability to see the floor, make a quick pass in motion, and his handle. The negatives in his game makes him a high risk, high reward player. With a gutted roster, don't know if thats what kind of player we should be picking at 4.

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Using a number 4 pick on a PG who cant consistently hit a jumper concerns me. Sure there are PGs who had the same issue who turned out to be very good players, but its a big gamble with a gutted roster.

The break down talked about Mudiay's lack of shooting off the dribble. I disagree that the shots the clip highlighted were really off the dribble because Mudiay had plenty of time to stop, set, and shoot a brick. The earlier part of the breakdown where he was shooting while up in the air, in motion where closer to what I consider off the dribble. Those higlights showed promise.

Still haven't made up my mind who we should pick, but I do like Mudiay's PNR ability, his ability to see the floor, make a quick pass in motion, and his handle. The negatives in his game makes him a high risk, high reward player. With a gutted roster, don't know if thats what kind of player we should be picking at 4.

how do you feel about Westbrook?

Depends on what day you ask me, lol. Until this season I admired his skills, thought he looked for his shot too much. Thought Westbrook showed more of an all around game with Durant out. Mudiay is a couple of gears slower than Westbrook. If he wasn't I might be more inclined to see Phil take a chance on drafting him.