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markvmc
Posts: 21774 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2008 Member: #1797 |
2/28/2015 1:29 PM
No... Just... no.
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
2/28/2015 10:37 PM
Jerome James was balling in his contract year too..
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
2/28/2015 11:34 PM
holfresh wrote:Jerome James was balling in his contract year too..Snacks had one game where he scored more than 16 pts. the year prior to joining the Knicks. Bargs has a lot more talent. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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markvmc
Posts: 21774 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2008 Member: #1797 |
3/1/2015 12:00 AM
Talent isn't enough. Eddy Curry had talent.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
3/1/2015 9:11 AM
I could easily see 7-8 clubs offering bargs 5-6mm for a year. When we step back and move bargnani salary in half and commit only 1 year he becomes attractive. I also said no bargs at any cost heck he's been hurt and hasn't played the right way in NY. After some tune up games he's avg 20-7 over the last 3getting to the ft a lot.IF bargs plays the right way as in minimal 3s setting up in the mid range and post from the 5position he becomes more valuable. This is a 25 game evalution-- not a 1 game wonder. So many Knicks fans wanted Zach Randolph out at any cost and everyone of them was wrong.Keep an open mind and let the player earn a spot or not earn it
RIP Crushalot😞
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
3/1/2015 10:53 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I could easily see 7-8 clubs offering bargs 5-6mm for a year. When we step back and move bargnani salary in half and commit only 1 year he becomes attractive. I also said no bargs at any cost heck he's been hurt and hasn't played the right way in NY. After some tune up games he's avg 20-7 over the last 3getting to the ft a lot.IF bargs plays the right way as in minimal 3s setting up in the mid range and post from the 5position he becomes more valuable. This is a 25 game evalution-- not a 1 game wonder. So many Knicks fans wanted Zach Randolph out at any cost and everyone of them was wrong.Keep an open mind and let the player earn a spot or not earn it bargnani has the same problem as randolph-- they both are not high-character players. we had to give randolph the heave-ho because of this, among other things. remember isaiah thomas brought in randolph, curry, marbury, and a number of talented but low-character players. if the overarching goal is culture change then part of that culture change is improving the level of character among the employees you hire. since isaiah thomas and jim dolan are low-character people, they could not help but bring in players of similar low level of character. and i agree with splat wholeheartedly: character = destiny knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
3/1/2015 11:26 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I could easily see 7-8 clubs offering bargs 5-6mm for a year. When we step back and move bargnani salary in half and commit only 1 year he becomes attractive. I also said no bargs at any cost heck he's been hurt and hasn't played the right way in NY. After some tune up games he's avg 20-7 over the last 3getting to the ft a lot.IF bargs plays the right way as in minimal 3s setting up in the mid range and post from the 5position he becomes more valuable. This is a 25 game evalution-- not a 1 game wonder. So many Knicks fans wanted Zach Randolph out at any cost and everyone of them was wrong.Keep an open mind and let the player earn a spot or not earn it Who are these teams? You won't even find 7-8 clubs who will give Amar'e that much money for on year and he is a more productive player offensively and defensively(barely). Amar'e maybe will get mMLE type money. So, taking that into consideration what would teams give a less productive big who is not known for putting in the work in the off season like STAT, as injury prone, and not nearly productive? Bargs will more than likely get a Pablo type deal for two years or and Ed Davis type deal if he stays in the NBA. He will get some kind of low salary deal slightly above the minimum guaranteed for one year to prove he can still play for a full season. The second year will either have be non-guranteed or with a player option depending on his Agent's skill. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
3/1/2015 11:27 AM
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BRIGGS wrote:I could easily see 7-8 clubs offering bargs 5-6mm for a year. When we step back and move bargnani salary in half and commit only 1 year he becomes attractive. I also said no bargs at any cost heck he's been hurt and hasn't played the right way in NY. After some tune up games he's avg 20-7 over the last 3getting to the ft a lot.IF bargs plays the right way as in minimal 3s setting up in the mid range and post from the 5position he becomes more valuable. This is a 25 game evalution-- not a 1 game wonder. So many Knicks fans wanted Zach Randolph out at any cost and everyone of them was wrong.Keep an open mind and let the player earn a spot or not earn it bargnani has the same problem as randolph-- they both are not high-character players. we had to give randolph the heave-ho because of this, among other things. remember isaiah thomas brought in randolph, curry, marbury, and a number of talented but low-character players. if the overarching goal is culture change then part of that culture change is improving the level of character among the employees you hire. since isaiah thomas and jim dolan are low-character people, they could not help but bring in players of similar low level of character. and i agree with splat wholeheartedly: character = destiny Yes we can see just how much of a character issue Zach Randolph was in the right situation where he was used the right way. I've never hear bargnani had charcter issues. I do believe that teams allowed him to play undiscplned for his whole career. If he sticks to a formula of a mid range to post game find the open man when its there rebound and defend he is still quite talented and skilled. He's not going to command more than a small 1-2 yr commitment from anyone. If he proves he can play the right way 30 min a night over the last 25 and shows he can be a real help as part of a team why wouldn't we want him back on those terms? He fills the triangle post man my h better than many NBA players T 7 feet tall RIP Crushalot😞
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fitzfarm
Posts: 25060 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
3/1/2015 2:30 PM
I'd say absolutely yes to bringing back brags he is perfect for the triangle and, the guy hasn't been healthy for 3 to 4 years ... If he's the player Toronto had 4 years ago he's well worth 6 mil for one or even 2 years for 12
When healthy his a top pf/C he out played Monroe and johnson. I think if we go pg in the draft like russell I'd really go after ajinca to be our center. Ajinca/Lou/Aldrich? |
fitzfarm
Posts: 25060 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
3/1/2015 2:32 PM
Ajinca is turning into a top center he would be cheap and a steal fa for the knicks he's only 26
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