gunsnewing wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:dk7th wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:dk7th wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Melo isn't an emotional leader or an intangible dirty work type of guy. He is what he is which is one if the toughest covers in the league. A good team consist of players that cover each others weaknesses. Rather then depending on one guy to be a teams everthing. Derek Fisher was a role player and never made 10mil per season. But was one of the leadership figures on the champiobship Lakers team. Our draft pick should be our talent grabber while some of the money should go to a 3rd talent. The rest of the team should be about. Leadership, hard work, professionalism but guys who are contagious with it.
listen you make a great, valid, inarguable point. good teams manage to find ways to cover weaknesses of one another (and enhance strengths). my issue is you just don't pay one player 25 million who is as profoundly flawed as melo is. what we have here is a virtually impossible situation, a very very deep hole that many posters seem to think the knickerbockers will be able to dig themselves out of... with the goal of winning a title with melo in a knick uniform.
the amount of sheer inertia that his salary and his game have on a team is immense.
One thing that benefits us is that players with leadership cappabilities don't need to be expensive. Neither do professional or hardworking team guys. The areas that cost money is talent. So basically we have to hit on our draft pick which is cost effective talent. And we have to hit on a great signing with our cap space. We basically need a Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups type signing and an Amare type hit on our draft pick. We have a ability to be able to land either or both which is all we can ask for.
again you make a good point-- good leadership need not come at a high price-- in fact, when we had kurt thomas, rasheed wallace, jason kidd, even kenyon martin-- that was enough to solidify the team that season, and i will emphasize how important kidd was those first 35 games or so.
but that was then, and the median age of those cats was probably 37. this is now: are you saying there are players with that kind of leadership, ballast, charisma, game, AND who are in the prime of their careers-- that can overcome the anthinay inertia?
This I don't know. But Phil should be turning over every rock in order to find them. They also don't have to be prime. Just not over the hill. Like Kidd in Dallas wasn't prime but he wasn't over the hill. Same with Shawn Marion. Of course I don't know if we will be able to land that level of talent with leadership or dirty work capabilities.
Yea but Dirk took a paycut and made only $17mil and managed to stay healthy in 10/11.
Allowing them to add multiple key championship pieces TYSON, kidd and Marion just to name a few.
And honestly Dallas winning was kind of a fluke as they caught Miami at the right time Before they learned how to close
Dallas, traded for Jason Terry(04), traded for Kidd(08), traded for Marion(09), traded for Tyson Chandler(10).
The salary cap was 58.044 that year. Dirk took up 30% of the Mavericks cap space.
They were a more complete team then Miami. Miami couldn't shoot and Dallas went zone and forced Miami to beat them from the perimeter which they couldn't. Wade went 7-23, Lebron went 9-28 from down town. The ast % from the Mavs as a team was greater then the ast % from Miami as a team. Miami should have lost to the Spurs as well who uncharacteristically folded down the stretch of a close out game losing focus.
Hitting on a top lottery pick alleviates Melo's salary. If Melo is making 22-26mil and our high lottery pick is producing at an allstar level at 6-8mil level(with the new salary cap) then the hit isn't as bad. And still leaves money on the table to add a 3rd talent who we should look to add at around a 12mil range. Then the rest of the cap should be used to fill in the leadership, dirty work, intangible, proffessional players who may not demand a lot of money. And/Or players we groom like Galloway, Thanasis, Early, Hardaway Jr, and who ever else we can uncover down the road.
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