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Here is my draft update from Real GM from January 8th
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GustavBahler
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1/12/2015  9:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/12/2015  9:11 PM
This clip breaks down Porzingis, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Interesting break down of his performance in one game. Lampe is in this game BTW.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kristaps-Porzingis-7119/

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1/12/2015  10:33 PM
Here's another 6-4 athletic guard to keep an eye on. I'm adding him to my top 30 at 28 Denzel Livingston PG/SG
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1/12/2015  10:39 PM
Who are your Byron Mullens and Mike Muscala overrated stiffs this year?

Your list with Towns at #6 and guys like WCS and S-Johnson out of top 10 is laughable but no worries you will change your mind 100 more times over the next 6 months.

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1/13/2015  12:02 AM
LivingLegend wrote:Who are your Byron Mullens and Mike Muscala overrated stiffs this year?

Your list with Towns at #6 and guys like WCS and S-Johnson out of top 10 is laughable but no worries you will change your mind 100 more times over the next 6 months.


Freshmen make up a large part of the kids drafted, and it's pretty hard to make exact assessments on them with such a small body of work to look at. Some guys meet their pre-college expectations/rankings, some don't, and some are able to evolve and improve as the college season goes along.

As somebody who does not usually follow college ball, I like having some idea of who is who, and always appreciate finding out about players who have been under the radar.

Things usually become more clear by the end of the season, and the NCAA Finals provide even more info for NBA teams to assess. Even then you have all the pre-draft workouts, and you see even more players emerge.

I don't get worried about somebody reevaluating young players who have played so few games- I would be more surprised if someone never made changes in their draft lists.

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1/13/2015  12:46 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Here's another 6-4 athletic guard to keep an eye on. I'm adding him to my top 30 at 28 Denzel Livingston PG/SG

Briggs, I like Harvey at ~ pick 20-25 (good find). Portis should go 8-14 in my opinion. Haven't seen much of Woodley.

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1/13/2015  1:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2015  2:19 AM
codeunknown wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Here's another 6-4 athletic guard to keep an eye on. I'm adding him to my top 30 at 28 Denzel Livingston PG/SG

Briggs, I like Harvey at ~ pick 20-25 (good find). Portis should go 8-14 in my opinion. Haven't seen much of Woodley.

I think pretty much like a George Hill or a Damian Lillard that each of these 3 players Harvey Livingston and Woodley have NBA skill sets that are just hidden in obscurity. Each year I can of find one--last year it was Delon Wright--Nate Wolters year before. I remember sitting at a Uconn game watching a kid named Jeremy Lin playing and I posted that kid will be an NBA player one day(although we havent seen too many Asian Americans from Harvard in the NBA:) All of these guys can shoot--Harvey might be one of the best 3 point shooters of the last ten years. Woodley is a unique power guard who plays similar to how D wade played at Marquette sans the passing(although Woodley is abetter shooter) Ill make this easy call right now---wait until we get more tape of Livingston--hes a senior like Galloway and actually reminds me a little of Galoway but hes simply better. He taller longer more athletic and a better all around basketball player. Since he is the senior of the bunch I would rec that the Knicks keep a keen eye on him if they like Galloway so much--this is the superior player.

Just listen to his coach talk about him and you can catch a few snippets of his shooting form in this particular video(his form is like a young Ray Allen) and his length and athleticism in the small clip next. I'm sure PJ is interested in 6-4 athletic long 1.5's who can shoot and are special on defense.

You can kind of get a feeling for what type of player Woodley is right away--skip to 4:10 in this video and watch the next 4 minutes. He s an above the rim power guard who very much like a young D wade takes aggressive B line drives towards the basket for dunks/ lay ups and uses an open floor game rebounds handles and can shoot it 2nd video you can hear his coach talk about him.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/players/109509/
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/players/121794/gamelog/

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/players/121841/

lastly Im sure some people have seen Pat Connaughton play but hes also not ranked anywhere and hes a version of a Dan Marjle. Hes deceptive athletic fundamental good size can handle shoot etc..

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1/13/2015  3:14 PM
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Swishfm3 wrote:This draft is horrible.


I honestly had no idea that this Mudiay kid was playing in China (just googled his name). Seriously people...aside from youtube and ESPN stat sheets, has anyone actually seen this kid play? Why is he so high on everyones mock draft????

Haven't seen him play full games at a time live -- nonetheless, I like what I see on video A LOT. How could you not?? I like everything about him in fact -- good guard size at 6'5" 200 (great size for a point); the word is he's a true point, not some 1.5 (plays like it from what I can see); good offensive skills; looks to get others involved; etc.. Guys like that just don't grow on trees. Then when you consider what we need most--an impact big and an impact PG--he fits the bill there. Will he make mistakes, esp. early on? Of course. Will he need time to develop fully? You bet. All of these kids in the draft will, even Okafor. At the same time, does he look very advanced for a kid just removed from HS? Absolutely. To me anyway. Again, the one big criticism is that he doesn't shoot the ball well enough yet. Just judging from what I see on video though, his stroke looks pretty good. DX on their pre-season scouting video talked about how he releases at different heights on his jumper--sometimes at the apex, sometimes midway while still rising, sometimes on the way down. I think his jumper actually looks pretty smooth and clean. Barely noticeable. Definitely 100% correctable. People said Shumpert couldn't shoot a lick coming out of G-Tech and I actually thought that was one of the better parts of his game. A hell of a lot prettier than Tyreke Evans' jump-shot that's for sure and I think he'll be more effective with it than Tyreke is with his in the NBA.

I can't write this kid off simply because I haven't seen him on TV. Who's to say he made a bad decision going to China too btw? He got the highest salary on record for a HS player forgoing college to go play abroad I believe ($1.2mm?). Who do you know that would pass that up?? Come on--to go play basketball?? Something you love doing and are good at?? At 18 knowing college wasn't your thing?!? No brainer man. I'm not gonna hold that against him...Then the kid goes over there, plays 10 games and unfortunately gets hurt. I was just reading somewhere where Fran Fraschilla, maybe on his twitter, was talking about how he was impressed by Mudiay's "excellent size, speed and poise" and that unfortunately, he went to a Chinese team that was built to win now, therefore Mudiay maybe wasn't being developed like he should have. Then the team moved on quickly without him when they replaced him with Will Bynum once he got injured. I mean what's Guangdong supposed to do there? I know they coughed up a lot of money to bring him there but they knew damn well it was only a short-term investment going in. They moved on. Now I heard the kid might have to sit out until the NBA draft. I can't hold any of this against Mudiay. You think he wanted to get hurt?? The Knicks, like everyone else I'm sure, obviously have dispatched personnel to go see him play in person. Would've been nice to formulate a stronger opinion which would've been easier if I saw Mudiay a handful of games against other college players I'm familiar with (I'm gonna search youtube a little harder btw--I bet all his games for Guangdong are archived on there somewhere--full games), but when the time comes if the Knicks are convinced, I'm good. I see good potential here for something special. Plus he fills a huge need.

But he's playing in CHINA!!

Did you know Bobby Brown scored 64 points the other day...
http://ballislife.com/former-nba-player-bobby-brown-drops-64-points-10-assists-in-china/

Comp doesn't seem to be too difficult there....

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1/16/2015  1:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2015  12:24 AM
January 15th

1. Jahill Okafor PF
2. Karl Towns PF/C
3. Deangelo Russell PG
4. Bobby Portis PF
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG
6. Kelly Oubre SG
7. Stanley Johnson SF
8 Delon Wright PG
9 Troy Williams SF
10 Frank Kaminsky C/PF
11 Willie Stein C
12 Robert Upshaw C
13 Devin Booker SG
14 Kevin Looney PF
15 Myles Turner C/PF
16.Montrezl Harrell PF
17 Tyler Harvey PG
18 Kris Dunn PG
19 Terry Rozier PG
20 Rakeem Christmas PF
21 Justice Winslow SF
22 Rashad Vaughn SG
23 Sam Decker SF
24 Justin Andersen SF
25 Trey Lyles PF
26 Dakari Johnson C
27 Christian Wood PF
28 Jameel Warney PF
29 Zeek Woodley G
30 Michael Qualls SG

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1/22/2015  3:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2015  10:56 AM
January 22

1a. Jahill Okafor PF
1b. Deangelo Russell
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3. Karl Towns
4. Emmanuel Mudiay pg
5 Stanley Johnson sf
6. Bobby Portis pf
7. Kelly Oubre SG
8 Delon Wright PG
9 Devin Booker sg
10 Frank Kaminsky C/PF
11 Willie Stein C
12 Myles Turner PF
13 Tyler Harvey pg
14 Robert Upshaw C
15 Kevin Looney pf
16.Rakeem Christmas PF
17 Troy Williams sf
18 Kris Dunn PG
19 Montrezl Harrell PF
20 Terry Rozier PG
21 Justice Winslow SF
22 Christian Wood PF
23 Jerian Grant PG
24 Michael Qualls SG
25 Dakari Johnson C
26 Zeek Woodley sg
27 Sam Decker SF
28 Justin Andersen SF
29 Amida Brimah c
30 Trey Lyles PF

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1/22/2015  3:34 PM
BRIGGS wrote:January 22

1. Jahill Okafor PF
2. Karl Towns PF/C
3. Deangelo Russell PG
4. Bobby Portis PF
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG
6. Stanley Johnson SF
7. Kelly Oubre SG
8 Delon Wright PG
9 Troy Williams SF
10 Frank Kaminsky C/PF
11 Willie Stein C
12 Robert Upshaw C
13 Devin Booker SG
14 Kevin Looney PF
15 Myles Turner C/PF
16.Rakeem Christmas PF
17 Tyler Harvey PG
18 Kris Dunn PG
19 Montrezl Harrell PF
20 Terry Rozier PG
21 Justice Winslow SF
22 Christian Wood PF
23 Jerian Grant PG
24 Justin Andersen SF
25 Trey Lyles PF
26 Dakari Johnson C
27 Sam Decker SF
28 Brad Waldow PF/C
29 Zeek Woodley G
30 Michael Qualls SG

Seems you have warmed back up to Towns. You originally said after Ok4 it was an acquired taste type of draft. Is that still the case with Towns, or if not, what is the reason you cemeted him as a firm #2?

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1/22/2015  3:42 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:January 22

1. Jahill Okafor PF
2. Karl Towns PF/C
3. Deangelo Russell PG
4. Bobby Portis PF
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG
6. Stanley Johnson SF
7. Kelly Oubre SG
8 Delon Wright PG
9 Troy Williams SF
10 Frank Kaminsky C/PF
11 Willie Stein C
12 Robert Upshaw C
13 Devin Booker SG
14 Kevin Looney PF
15 Myles Turner C/PF
16.Rakeem Christmas PF
17 Tyler Harvey PG
18 Kris Dunn PG
19 Montrezl Harrell PF
20 Terry Rozier PG
21 Justice Winslow SF
22 Christian Wood PF
23 Jerian Grant PG
24 Justin Andersen SF
25 Trey Lyles PF
26 Dakari Johnson C
27 Sam Decker SF
28 Brad Waldow PF/C
29 Zeek Woodley G
30 Michael Qualls SG

Seems you have warmed back up to Towns. You originally said after Ok4 it was an acquired taste type of draft. Is that still the case with Towns, or if not, what is the reason you cemeted him as a firm #2?

Right now its either Russell or Towns at 2.

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1/22/2015  9:14 PM
Is Mudiay ever getting a chance to play again this year, and how much does not playing in organized ball affect his draft position, if you have so little game play to watch?

Just wondering.


BRIGGS wrote:January 22

1. Jahill Okafor PF
2. Karl Towns PF/C
3. Deangelo Russell PG
4. Bobby Portis PF
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG
6. Stanley Johnson SF
7. Kelly Oubre SG
8 Delon Wright PG
9 Troy Williams SF
10 Frank Kaminsky C/PF
11 Willie Stein C
12 Robert Upshaw C
13 Devin Booker SG
14 Kevin Looney PF
15 Myles Turner C/PF
16.Rakeem Christmas PF
17 Tyler Harvey PG
18 Kris Dunn PG
19 Montrezl Harrell PF
20 Terry Rozier PG
21 Justice Winslow SF
22 Christian Wood PF
23 Jerian Grant PG
24 Justin Andersen SF
25 Trey Lyles PF
26 Dakari Johnson C
27 Sam Decker SF
28 Brad Waldow PF/C
29 Zeek Woodley G
30 Michael Qualls SG

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1/22/2015  9:18 PM
he is probably shutting it down... he's entrenched in the top 5 and probably won't endanger his draft stock by trying to play hurt and competing with will bynum for minutes...
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1/22/2015  9:22 PM
From what i saw tonight--Im putting Deangelo Russell into the 1 B position--meaning he's a chance to be a number 1 pick--I mean that good. He is VERY good I mean I cant emphasize it enough Right now I would still take Okafor but Id have to think about it. I wouldnt have to think about Towns now--hes clearly 2 and tonight hes making cases for #1.
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1/22/2015  10:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2015  10:20 PM
What is so special about Moudiay? I would never draft such a player with a lottery pick. He made the decision to go play in China, so why should he be drafted as a lottery player?
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/23/2015  11:53 AM
BRIGGS wrote:From what i saw tonight--Im putting Deangelo Russell into the 1 B position--meaning he's a chance to be a number 1 pick--I mean that good. He is VERY good I mean I cant emphasize it enough Right now I would still take Okafor but Id have to think about it. I wouldnt have to think about Towns now--hes clearly 2 and tonight hes making cases for #1.

He does look eerily smooth- it's like he's moving the ball with telekinesis

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1/27/2015  9:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2015  10:59 PM
January 28th

1a. Jahill Okafor PF
1b. Deangelo Russell PG/SG
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3. Emanuel Mudiay PG
4. Karl Towns C/PF
5. Stanley Johnson sf
6. Devin Booker SG
7. Bobby Portis PF
8 Frank Kaminsky of c
9 Myles Turner PF
10 Jerian Grant PG
11 Willie Stein C
12 Delon Wright PG
13 Kelly Oubre Sg
14 Kris Dunn PG
15 Rakeem Christmas PF
16.Kevin Looney pf
17 Christian Wood PF
18.Michael Qualls SG
19 Tyler Harvey PG
20 Terry Rozier PG
21 Montrezl Harrell PF
22 Justice Winslow SF
23 Troy Williams SF
24 Damian Jones C
25 Dakari Johnson C
26 Justin Andersen SF
27 Sam Decker SF
28 Robert Upshaw C
29 Ryan Boatright PG
30 Trey Lyles PF

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1/27/2015  1:41 PM
you must've forgot stanley johnson...
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1/27/2015  2:05 PM
How the hell is emmanuel higher than Towns? the dude is still injured right and he is playing in freaking China. They are just a bunch of tall dudes that just stand there and play no defense. there national team played Georgetown and got destroyed.
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1/27/2015  2:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/27/2015  2:23 PM
TPercy wrote:How the hell is emmanuel higher than Towns? the dude is still injured right and he is playing in freaking China. They are just a bunch of tall dudes that just stand there and play no defense. there national team played Georgetown and got destroyed.

Karl Towns continued lack of production. Believe me Id love Towns to force his way back into the top 3 or even 1 but he hasnt been close. I think he needs to sit down and understand he needs to bring his mental game every night and give 115% physically. CBB only play 4/10 of the season the NBA does--you need guys who are going to be there every night. He has given games where he has blocked 7 balls and grabbed 12 rebounds in 23 minutes. What he needs to do is put everything together and demand the ball and more PT from his playing efforts. Production will increase his draft stock but he will not fall below 6 in any case.

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