1 Jahill Okafor PF/C 6-10 270
2 Karl Towns PF/C 6-11 245
3 Deangelo Russell PG 6-5 190
4 Emannuel Mudiay PG 6-5 200
5 Kristaps Porzingis PF 7-1 210
6 Bobby Portis PF 6-11 245
7 Christian Wood PF 6-11 220
8 Devin Booker SG 6-6 210
9 Stanley Johnson SF 6-7 245
10 Willie Stein C 7-0 245
11 Justice Winslow SF 6-6 230
12 Myles Turner PF/C 6-11 245
13 Jerian Grant PG 6-5 200
14 Frank Kaminsky C/PF 7-0 245
15 Montrezl Harrell PF 6-8 240
16.Kelly Oubre SG 6-7 200
17 Kris Dunn PG 6-3 190
18.Rondae Jefferson SF 6-7 220
19 Rakeem Christmas PF/C 6-9 250
20 Tyus Jones PG 6-1 200
21 Domantas Sabonis PF 6-10 235
22 A J Hammonds C 7-0 270
23 Justin Andersen SF 6-6 235
24 Damian Jones C 6-10 255
25 Kevin Looney PF 6-10 230
26 Michael Gbinije SG 6-7 200
27 Delon Wright 6-5 190 PG
28 Dakari Johnson C 6-11 260
29 Terry Rozier PG 6-1 190
30 Larry Nance JR 6-8 245

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Post#760 » by BRIGGS » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:27 am
1. Jahill Okafor PF
2. Deangelo Russell PG
3. Emmanuel Mudiay PG
4. Delon Wright PG
5 .Bobby Portis PF
6. Karl Towns PF PF/C
7. Kevin Looney PF
8 Devin Booker SG
9 Tyler Harvey PG
10 Troy Williams SF
11 Stanley Johnson SF
12 Rakeem Christmas PF
13 Frank Kaminsky C
14 Willie Stein C
15 Justice Winslow SF
16. Myles Turner PF
17 Montrezl Harrell PF
18 Zeek Woodley
19 Terry Rozier PG
20 Robert Upshaw C
21 Kelly Oubre SG
22 Dakari Johnson C
23 Christian Wood
24 Sam Decker SF
25 Jerian Wright PG
26 Justin Andersen SF
27 Zach Auguste PF
28 Tyrone Wallace CG
29 Juwan Staten PG
30 Alan Williams PF
No foreign guys in this draft.

Is this by design on your part, or do you simply feel that there is not a foreign player worthy of a top 30 slot?

Just wondering.

I wouldnt add foreign players until the end. I really liked Nurkic last year--I took him in the mock draft on this site. I was willing to take him high as #3 since Embiid was hurt.

While we are very limited on how we can improve
I personally think we are better off trading CA if a team is willing to pay us a good return regardless, as he will decline much in the next couple years and simply has too many holes in his game

If we can get 2 1st rounders, 4 2nd rounders, and some younger players like DMO, Beverly, Terrence Jones, Koustas Pap, I think we would be relevent by 2017 as a TOP 4 team in The East and for the next decade if we can get the # 1 or 2 overall pick this year

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This draft is a risk reward draft. It kind of stinks being at the top as you dont really have defined players for it. Really the kNicks position is all about a chance at Okafor THEN its about leveraging the asset for maximum return. We'll have to wait 3 months for any other breakouts--but what you really have are a TON of BIG players with potential yet are NOT anywhere nEAR finished prospects. It will NOT surprise me for a team with he 23 rd pick to do better than the team with pick #2--thats what scks for us. Id rather have pick 2 obviously but we could see that scenario down the line. The management of the Knicks have their work cut out for them and lets pray the lottery balls give us a Patrick Ewing moment.

now this is why you don't freakin tank!

Lets wait and see. At pick #2 or #3 we could take a player or we could turn it into 3 pick maybe 2 this year 1 next year. Some people love Mudiay some people love Towns
and you cant get those players lower. There is ONLY 1 finished product and that is Okafor.

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This draft is a risk reward draft. It kind of stinks being at the top as you dont really have defined players for it. Really the kNicks position is all about a chance at Okafor THEN its about leveraging the asset for maximum return. We'll have to wait 3 months for any other breakouts--but what you really have are a TON of BIG players with potential yet are NOT anywhere nEAR finished prospects. It will NOT surprise me for a team with he 23 rd pick to do better than the team with pick #2--thats what scks for us. Id rather have pick 2 obviously but we could see that scenario down the line. The management of the Knicks have their work cut out for them and lets pray the lottery balls give us a Patrick Ewing moment.

now this is why you don't freakin tank!

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:you really think Wright has NBA PG written all over him? Looney had a breakout game. I know Portis is more polished but Looney is freaksihly long... Like Tayson Prince with muscles

. Delon Wright could be a 6-5 version of Rajon Rondo. I don't see him as Knick selection. He's going to be an impact player on the defensive end from day 1 hes that good on D. All NBA type defense from the 1.

Swishfm3 wrote:This draft is horrible.

I honestly had no idea that this Mudiay kid was playing in China (just googled his name). Seriously people...aside from youtube and ESPN stat sheets, has anyone actually seen this kid play? Why is he so high on everyones mock draft????

I would not be surprised to look back in 5 years (if im not dead) and see that this draft was very very good. How many drafts have this many bigs with talent? I mean its really loaded. But because there are so many unfinished players--I would not be surprised to see pick 24 be better than pick 3 for example. There is a lack of elite athletes from the big and wing position(guys with superior athletic ability)with game. There are some pure unknowns who could jump up from no where so it really is a waiting process

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This draft is a risk reward draft. It kind of stinks being at the top as you dont really have defined players for it. Really the kNicks position is all about a chance at Okafor THEN its about leveraging the asset for maximum return. We'll have to wait 3 months for any other breakouts--but what you really have are a TON of BIG players with potential yet are NOT anywhere nEAR finished prospects. It will NOT surprise me for a team with he 23 rd pick to do better than the team with pick #2--thats what scks for us. Id rather have pick 2 obviously but we could see that scenario down the line. The management of the Knicks have their work cut out for them and lets pray the lottery balls give us a Patrick Ewing moment.

now this is why you don't freakin tank!

Are you really against teams tanking? I'm not a huge draft guy in most years but when there is that really big time talent it pays to be in the mix and if you don't get him you can try to trade back if that makes the most sense. Really it's an asset and i'm glad we have it in a year when there is at least a chance to get a big time talent. Some drafts are even worse and you end up with a nobody at the top.

Yes. I think you need to try to win and build a winning culture. Not this fake tank bull sh1t.

I really don't view it as a "Tank" in the sense that you see teams like the Sixers and Celtics basically looking at the draft and multiple years of purposefully not trying to win. In New York this is the 1st time we've actually waved the white flag and gutted the team with a purpose of not only clearing cap space but also in hopes of a good draft pick as part of a rebuilding effort. This is the best option we have right now. Not to mention that with cap space it will open up future trade possibilities. We have yet to reach the trade deadline so there is more that can be done to prepare for the future.

No! This was CERTAINLY not a tank. It was one of the biggest FUKUPS in knicks history.

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2015 NBA draft's top 10 international prospects
Marc J. Spears By Marc J. Spears
Dec 9, 2014 7:29 PM
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Scouts from a dozen NBA teams attended Sunday's game between Spain Cajasol Sevilla and Barcelona. Most of their attention was directed at Kristaps Porzingis, a 7-foot-1 center whom some scouts think could challenge to be the top pick in the 2015 NBA draft.

"Porzingis, or, as I call him, 'Zinger,' is a cross between Andrea Bargnani, Pau Gasol and Ersan Ilyasova," Sevilla coach Scott Roth wrote in an e-mail to Yahoo Sports. "He is 7-1 and still growing at 19 years old. He has the total package, and, really, this is his first year of really playing, getting quality minutes and being depended on game by game.

"The only thing you can say negative about him is his body is not ready and is a work in progress, which will only get better over the years. When he is 22, 23 years old he will be very good and maybe great."
Porzingis had 13 points and six rebounds in 24 minutes of Sevilla's 85-74 victory over Barcelona. Willy Hernangomez, a teammate of Porzingis' and another top draft prospect, had 29 points and 13 rebounds in 31 minutes.

"I haven't seen a European player with the skill combination he possesses," Sevilla swingman and former NBA player Derrick Byars said of Porzingis. "Kristaps has a [Dirk] Nowitzki-like offensive skill set. He's 7-1, can shoot, can put the ball on the floor, can block shots, he's mobile and athletic. There's not much he can't do on the floor."

Porzingis was projected by some NBA scouts to be a late first-round pick in the 2014 draft before he withdrew his name. The Latvian was averaging 11 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 blocks in 21.1 minutes through eight games of Eurocup play this season while shooting 56.3 percent from 3-point range.

Porzingis "is a hard worker, great kid, fluent in English and loves basketball," said Roth, a former NBA player who was an NBA assistant coach with the Dallas Mavericks, Vancouver/Memphis Grizzlies, Golden State Warriors and Toronto Raptors.

Here are scouts' opinions on Porzingis and the rest of the top 10 2015 NBA draft prospects playing overseas, including Congolese-American Emmanuel Mudiay.

1. Kristaps Porzingis, PF, 7-1, 220 pounds, Spain Cajasol Sevilla, 19: "He is a top-three prospect. He's a Dirk Nowitzki-type but more athletic. He runs the floor, plays above the rim and is a face-up guy. He has a shot at being the No. 1 pick and is definitely in the top three."

2. Emmanuel Mudiay, PG, 6-5, 190 pounds, China Guangdong, 18: "He is a new generation point guard with size, athleticism and speed. … He's not a score-first guard."

3. Mario Hezonja, SG, 6-8, 200 pounds, Spain Barcelona, 19: "A swingman with really good size and strength already at a young age. Good shooter who attacks the rim. Smaller Danilo Gallinari-type who will be a better NBA player than overseas player."

4. Marc Garcia, SF, 6-6, 170 pounds, Spain La Bruixa d'Or, 18: "A decent shooter who can hit a 3-point shot. He is slippery going to the rim and gets to the basket easily. Very young."

5. Egemen Guven, PF-C, 6-11, 220 pounds, Turkey Pinar Karsiyaka, 18: "He has long arms and a nice skilled game at center with a little Pau Gasol in him. He's under control. Makes the right play. A solid midrange shooter."

6. Willy Hernangomez, C, 6-11, 250 pounds, Spain Cajasol Sevilla, 20: "His game and his body reminds me of Marc Gasol. He was recently named the Eurocup Player of the Week."

7. Ilimane Diop, C, 6-11, 215 pounds, Spain Caja Laboral, 19: "A big-time sleeper who is a great shot-blocker and rebounder. He is very athletic and runs the floor well. Lots of upside."

8. Cedi Osman, SF, 6-8, 215 pounds, Anadolu Efes Istanbul, 19: "A big-time point forward who can catch and shoot. He runs the floor well. Tough rebounder."

9. Mouhammadou Jaiteh, C, 6-9, 249 pounds, France Nanterre, 20: "A bully of a presence and a tough rebounder. Does everything under the basket."

10. Nenad Miljenovic, PG, 6-4, 200 pounds, Serbia Mega Leks, 21: "Tough, competitive guard with good ball-handling skills. Knows how to run a team. Very mature player."