newyorknewyork wrote:Nalod wrote:The question is Monroe fully developed at age 25?
Is he going light on a bad team that won't pay him?I know most of you want a ready made guy for max or near max money but the true value of a free agent is to get a guy that will be more in a new system and coach and respond to new chemistry! We can all drool at Marc Gasol. WE all laughed at how Memphis got screwed when they traded his brother but that trade got them the space to sign Z-Bo and the two together has been fantastic!!!!!
Could anyone see Marc becoming this good?
All trades and signings come with risks. If the kid was a bonafide blue chipper he'd have been given a huge extension by now. Detroits change in management gave them pause to evaluate. The kid is willing to take the risk and test his value.
The system needs a fines 5 with an offensive game but need be surrounded by shooters. For now, Melo, THjr and Jose would help open things up. Wear looks like a keeper in a role capacity.
Monroe is not a ready made star, but this is how you get guys. . Most will worry about Knicks history of reupping guys before he even plays a game.He gets an opt out after two years so he can get his max money. If he disappoints, he does not
Having a guy like this and drafting a big Yoot gives the team some room to develop a young guy without too much pressure and risk injury. 19 year olds as we know blow out knees if over worked. Some call that "not playing the rookies", others call it smart.
It all depends on the price. He comes on a value deal then he is worth the chance. At near max then the risk becomes higher. If we could convince him on a 3 yr deal with the 3rd being a player option at like 11 mil per so that if he takes it to the next level he can get a max deal next. While selling him on how the triangle will get him to that level.
Also have to remember the draft is before free agency and could shape what players we target.
Captain obvious appreciates your contribution and the faint hint of quoting.
Of course it depends on the price and what you get in return. YOur almost saying "Wish in hindsight we can pay him depending on what he does so we don't have to take the risk and live with disappointment and assisgn the blame elsewhere cuz you can't blame me"!!!!
In my centrist mode of non commital Im not saying "Hey, lets sign Monroe as I think he will break out!!!!"
Im in scenario mode here. Why? Cuz the obvious is not there!
You want a bonafide value, you pay full retail price. Thats max. Detroit got new owners and new management and took time to pause. Maybe not a bad idea. Monroe can't get extended past Oct 31 so free agency is not in front of him. Its in his best interest to go all our and blow it up, but his agent might have a good idea of his market value and perhaps the kid is not trying to get hurt, not willing to run thru a brick wall for a coach/President who did not give him the money, or the guy is just plain soft.
Im sure in a perfect world want a guy to not do any of this and play his ass off but his team sucks and at the end of the day its Phucking Detroit!!!!! I can think of about 29 other cities I'd rather play in. Philly is next on the shyt list. im sure making 10 mil plus per year makes even Minny warm the heart but even Melo looks good after playing with Jennings and Josh smith!!!! Maybe LA and only having Kobe yell at you for one year is tolerable. Phil can use his Jedi Mind Zen tricks paint a picture. I have no freaking idea what this kid wants, or what Phil has in mind.
Captain obvious knows "it depends on what price!"
Is always about the money.
Value is created when you see it where few others do.
My HOPE is Phil sees what he wants and the value of his system to create a chemistry that provides a forumula where 1+1=3!!!!
My FAITH is tested.
MY Historical perspective leaves me doubtful and suspecious.
But Im a knick fan.