Dagger wrote:knickscity wrote:Splat wrote:knickscity wrote:Acy might have been Phil's better deal and it didnt take a valued player at all. If Dallas makes a run anywhere close to a title with Tyson...Phil shyt the bed. Dallas wanted Tyson back badly....I'll leave it there.
How does Dallas' performance cause a re-evaluation of the trade? Either it was good for us or it was not.
We had offers for Tyson mid-season last year and should have pulled the trigger. We were lucky Dallas was still around to deal with.
The reality is quite simple. Tyson became a serious underachiever as time went on here. If he re-energizes with Dallas and does well here, that doesn't change the fact he became a poor teammate here and he needed to be moved.
What was good for Dallas was good for us. We extracted the thorn called Felton from our paw in the process and got three players who are part of our rotation now. That's good no matter how well Tyson does.
Shyt the bed? Come on
Phil was in tow mid season....it's obvious he blocked the trade for Lowry. The reality is, this team didnt fit a player like Tyson. tyson was a piece to the puzzle, when the team expected him to be the puzzle and the box it came in. Miraculously he won DPOY in that role and became a first time all-star....so no he didnt underperform...he exceeeded.
Now if we're talking about playoffs.....JR sucked ass, so did Melo and his 40% shooting and unrelenting near record attempt heaves at the basket claiming his shoulder was hurt at the same time.
Sorry though, if Dallas wins anything close to atitle while we're still searching for a first round flameout....that deal was lost.
It's obvious Phil blocked the trade for Lowry? Phil came on in March, the trade deadline was in February. Hmmmmmm, I knew Phil was the zen master but I didn't know he was capable of time travel. Wow.
I'd suspect that as discussions ensued that phil was consulted on potential trades and thought the better of it.
Tyson in his career has had problems with his health and early on expectations of being a top pick out of highschool. Being DPOY he lived up to his contract and potential and in the right system at the right price he still can be productive.
I don't care what anyone says, this is a rebuilding year. WHile nobody comes out and says it this is a year to install a culture and clear out contracts.
Regarding Bargnani, I am on record months ago as believing he can thrive in this system. While some of you choose to look at the obvious and write him off the fact is we are not cutting him and paying for him at the same time unless we have a blue chip yoot in the wings we need to develop. A trade could always happen where a contending team can take on his expiring but he has to get healthy. WE still have 82 game left last I saw and while he might not be part of our future he can certainly contribute on teh court and off it if he becomes a good trade asset. Fact is at the right price he might see NY as a good place because the system might elevate his value but he can't monetize it on other teams. Its called reletive value.
Fact is a successful Bargnani is a very good thing. Half the league has guys with strains and pulls taking time. I would not sweat this.
This could get ugly early in the season. I not writing anyone off until January.
In fact, while Phil has not track record at the helm I trust this mofo more than anyone I can recall since Riley. He is not coaching but "PHish", being PHil, Fish, Rambus and Cleamons have a lot of sucess amung them and I trust their decision.
They write off Bargs, then he's gone.
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