Splat wrote:

EnySpree wrote:
Chill dude. He does fit so cut it out. The problem is there is alot of things that need to happen for that to even happen. It is fantasy talk. This is a message board. Your real name isn't Splat. My real name is Eny to these hoes on this board that i know in real life. This is fake life because it's on the Internet. I like ice cream. Amare sucks. That's what she said.

Chill? Kobe is a giant ahole at the end of his career with a body that keeps breaking down who is the opposite of what you need to build a new culture. The only culture Kobe understands is himself. He does fit because you say so, so I will not post such blashpemy in this virutal realm of unreality sayest thou.

Dude, cut it out with this nonsense about Kobe being injury prone. Just 2 seasons ago, the guy played 77 games and averaged 27ppg, 6rpg and 6apg. Yeah, the Achilles injury (that lead to his knee injury that was compounded by the Lakers being ****ty) did him no favors. In spite of that, he looks like he is back to form from judging his movement in 3 preseason games. Is it possible he re-injuries himself? Absolutely but considering how he's played through injuries in his career, I wouldn't be overly concerned. Besides, let's not pretend that JR Smith and company can give us anything more than Kobe.

TripleThreat wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:
...5 rings.
1 MVP
All-Star almost every year he's been in the league
8th highest PPG all-time
10th highest PPG in the playoffs...

Really? I mean really?

Dennis Eckersley has nearly 200 wins as a starting pitcher. He had over 300 saves in his career.

Hey you know what? The Yankees should sign him!

Wait, he was a Cy Young and MVP together one year right?

Oh, hold on, WHAT HE DID IN THE PAST HAS NO BEARING ON WHETHER HE CAN HELP YOU THIS YEAR?

Crazy talk, right?

Dude, Udonis Haslem has THREE RINGS as a player. Let's get him. We should start counting rings as the first step in getting players to help the Knicks.

Hey buddy, Adam Morrison has TWO RINGS. Dude, why ask if he can help the Knicks this year, let's get him.

Kevin Garnett is a HOF yo, look at that swag bro, he's one of the best players the league has ever seen. Let's get him right now.

Under your logic, the Yankees would still be starting Jorge Posada at catcher. And running David Cone out there.

Bryant has ZERO VALUE to the current Knicks. ZERO. He's on a two year deal, meaning that 2nd year, would choke out any team's cap. Giant NBA contracts on aging/decling players offer a vicious opportunity cost ( think of all the players the Knicks couldn't get in FA, not super stars, but solid role players and rotation guys because STATs contract was like a giant anchor around their neck?)

CAN A PLAYER HELP YOU RIGHT NOW?

For what Bryant would COST in cap space, assets and team chemistry, would that be worth the likely return he can give you RIGHT NOW?

It's not just raw numbers, it's EFFICIENCY. Can Kobe give a new team a whopping 30 points per game? Absolutely. Only by shooting 35 shot attempts a night and freezing out his team mates and having opposing wings blow by him each game. How EFFICIENT IS THAT? Some of you guys just focus on counting stats like points and rebounds and blocked shots like you were in a wind tunnel.

I know nothing about baseball and the idea of comparing Kobe's career to anything Haslem has done is asinine. For all this talk about Kobe being done, just 2 seasons ago he put up 27ppg, 6rpg and 6apg on 46% shooting. And contrary to your portrayal, he is far from injury prone, having played 77 games that season. Yes, he'd had a tough go with the Achilles injury and its residual effects but Kobe has demonstrated to be more than capable of playing through injuries throughout his career when the games matter. Needless to say, I'm not concerned about his health especially after seeing him in the preseason. The fact is that he hasn't lost much of a step since his prime and that prime contributed to 5 rings as an elite player in this league. I much rather have the shell of that than JR Smith or any of the other smucks on the roster.

Splat wrote:Besides, who in their right mind would even think Fish would deal with Kobe at the beginning of his coaching career?

Phil didn't bring in Derek in order to sacrifice his new coach to the machinations of a megalomaniacal lunatic like Kobe.

Splat wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Splat wrote:Besides, who in their right mind would even think Fish would deal with Kobe at the beginning of his coaching career?

Phil didn't bring in Derek in order to sacrifice his new coach to the machinations of a megalomaniacal lunatic like Kobe.

And by all accounts, Kobe and Fisher are good friends and have appeared more than amicable with each other in public. Your comments about tension between the two are completely unfounded.

That is completely besides the point. POTUS may hire his best friend to be White House Chief of Staff, but it is highly unlikely.

They can be the best of bros, but Fish was subordinate to Phil and then Kobe on the Lakers. Kobe becoming subordinate to Fish is a whole other kettle of fish and friendship often makes things worse if you need to make a big ego like Kobe conform to your will as coach.

This has zero relevance IMO because Kobe pretty much called the shots since Shaq left the Lakers and that franchise has bent over for him. That won't happen here and the worst thing Phil could do to Derek is put him into the position where he'd have to discipline his buddy. Let them go out to wine tastings together and leave it at that.

I only responded because you addressed me. AFAIK, this thread is lost in Willy Wonka land as Kobe will never be a Knick, so all the arguments about how groovy he'd be here are nothing more than farts in the wind.

Agree Kobe never coming here but all this how he stinks is just as ludicrous

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Splat wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Splat wrote:Besides, who in their right mind would even think Fish would deal with Kobe at the beginning of his coaching career?

Phil didn't bring in Derek in order to sacrifice his new coach to the machinations of a megalomaniacal lunatic like Kobe.

And by all accounts, Kobe and Fisher are good friends and have appeared more than amicable with each other in public. Your comments about tension between the two are completely unfounded.

That is completely besides the point. POTUS may hire his best friend to be White House Chief of Staff, but it is highly unlikely.

They can be the best of bros, but Fish was subordinate to Phil and then Kobe on the Lakers. Kobe becoming subordinate to Fish is a whole other kettle of fish and friendship often makes things worse if you need to make a big ego like Kobe conform to your will as coach.

This has zero relevance IMO because Kobe pretty much called the shots since Shaq left the Lakers and that franchise has bent over for him. That won't happen here and the worst thing Phil could do to Derek is put him into the position where he'd have to discipline his buddy. Let them go out to wine tastings together and leave it at that.

I only responded because you addressed me. AFAIK, this thread is lost in Willy Wonka land as Kobe will never be a Knick, so all the arguments about how groovy he'd be here are nothing more than farts in the wind.

Agree Kobe never coming here but all this how he stinks is just as ludicrous

Yeah that got a bit out of hand. Adonis haslem? wtf? The guy won 2 finals mvps.

with the worst shooting pct in finals mvp history.

Kobe does not "stink" but he is certainly way overrated and a massive dikhead

BRIGGS wrote:Sounds like Phil Jackson is posting here under a couple of handles. A lot of vitriol for a guy who helped Phil with 5 rings. Take away Kobe and he has 5 less. Would I take Kobe for Stat Bargnani and Tim Hardaway(as the asset) the answer is YES. By pairing Kobe and Carmelo--it would give us a chance to win now. Its really not a bad idea for both teams.

Yea I mentioned this trade when Phil came on board. The general perception is that Kobe is a laker lifer, like Jeter but I think it's a possibility. Lakers did Kobe right by giving him his money and now they will will be doing right by putting him on a cd tender with none other than his boys Phil & Derek

knickscity wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Splat wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Splat wrote:Besides, who in their right mind would even think Fish would deal with Kobe at the beginning of his coaching career?

Phil didn't bring in Derek in order to sacrifice his new coach to the machinations of a megalomaniacal lunatic like Kobe.

And by all accounts, Kobe and Fisher are good friends and have appeared more than amicable with each other in public. Your comments about tension between the two are completely unfounded.

That is completely besides the point. POTUS may hire his best friend to be White House Chief of Staff, but it is highly unlikely.

They can be the best of bros, but Fish was subordinate to Phil and then Kobe on the Lakers. Kobe becoming subordinate to Fish is a whole other kettle of fish and friendship often makes things worse if you need to make a big ego like Kobe conform to your will as coach.

This has zero relevance IMO because Kobe pretty much called the shots since Shaq left the Lakers and that franchise has bent over for him. That won't happen here and the worst thing Phil could do to Derek is put him into the position where he'd have to discipline his buddy. Let them go out to wine tastings together and leave it at that.

I only responded because you addressed me. AFAIK, this thread is lost in Willy Wonka land as Kobe will never be a Knick, so all the arguments about how groovy he'd be here are nothing more than farts in the wind.

Agree Kobe never coming here but all this how he stinks is just as ludicrous

Yeah that got a bit out of hand. Adonis haslem? wtf? The guy won 2 finals mvps.

with the worst shooting pct in finals mvp history.

Kobe does not "stink" but he is certainly way overrated and a massive dikhead

Overrated?

Yes. Compare his efficiency numbers to other HOF guards.

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Sounds like Phil Jackson is posting here under a couple of handles. A lot of vitriol for a guy who helped Phil with 5 rings. Take away Kobe and he has 5 less. Would I take Kobe for Stat Bargnani and Tim Hardaway(as the asset) the answer is YES. By pairing Kobe and Carmelo--it would give us a chance to win now. Its really not a bad idea for both teams.

Yea I mentioned this trade when Phil came on board. The general perception is that Kobe is a laker lifer, like Jeter but I think it's a possibility. Lakers did Kobe right by giving him his money and now they will will be doing right by putting him on a cd tender with none other than his boys Phil & Derek

why do we need kobe? We have shumpert.