nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Had Phil not traded Tyson

We wouldn't be discussing what he did

Under Woodson's watch

We'd be talking about another transformation

Tyson hungry to play for another contract

But since he's gone, time to pick up stones

I disagree. At best I think most fans would be waiting for his deal to expire. Tyson and his act angered me more then most of the messed up things that happened last year and the previous spring. The guy was supposed to be a pro, a champion and a leader. After being so disappointing he comes out with this:

“I definitely don’t want to waste another season,’’ Chandler said before the Knicks faced the Nets Tuesday at Barclays Center. “I don’t want to waste this season. I’m not into wasting seasons. Your time is too short in this league and I want to win a championship, another one. I’m not into wasting seasons.’’

Not going to miss him. He needed to go.

Tyson often didn't act very professional. That shocked me more than anything. I think he didn't take his share of blame like a man. He wanted to viewed with all this respect but then would do stupid things on the court that diminished his standing. We needed him to be a rock for this team and IMO he didn't provide that enough. Also to answer F500ONE, Phil DID trade Chandler and Felton which tells me a lot about how he felt about them. Phil spent a good while watching the team and he decided to move those 2 guys and say what he did about team chemistry. It could all be spin, but given the fact that we know about things Tyson said and did it seems to support the notion. Also the fact that Phil is so big on team chemistry and bonding makes me even more sure that he saw something that needed changing.

How do you know he wanted to move Tyson? Tyson is better than Dalembert.

He was moved because his contract was about to expire and wasn't part of the future plan

And he was moved because Dallas took Felton off our hands

Felton is the guy EVERYONE in the organization wanted gone but seemed impossible

gunsnewing wrote:I think he knew along with Kidd and Rasheed what it takes to win a championship. Once Kidd and Sheed retired there was no one to help lead offensively or defensively. Woodson was left holding the bag. Everything Woodson did went against what Tyson believed was needed to win a championship. Primarily team ball offensively and a non-gimmicky defense

gunsnewing wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Had Phil not traded Tyson

We wouldn't be discussing what he did

Under Woodson's watch

We'd be talking about another transformation

Tyson hungry to play for another contract

But since he's gone, time to pick up stones

I disagree. At best I think most fans would be waiting for his deal to expire. Tyson and his act angered me more then most of the messed up things that happened last year and the previous spring. The guy was supposed to be a pro, a champion and a leader. After being so disappointing he comes out with this:

“I definitely don’t want to waste another season,’’ Chandler said before the Knicks faced the Nets Tuesday at Barclays Center. “I don’t want to waste this season. I’m not into wasting seasons. Your time is too short in this league and I want to win a championship, another one. I’m not into wasting seasons.’’

Not going to miss him. He needed to go.

Tyson often didn't act very professional. That shocked me more than anything. I think he didn't take his share of blame like a man. He wanted to viewed with all this respect but then would do stupid things on the court that diminished his standing. We needed him to be a rock for this team and IMO he didn't provide that enough. Also to answer F500ONE, Phil DID trade Chandler and Felton which tells me a lot about how he felt about them. Phil spent a good while watching the team and he decided to move those 2 guys and say what he did about team chemistry. It could all be spin, but given the fact that we know about things Tyson said and did it seems to support the notion. Also the fact that Phil is so big on team chemistry and bonding makes me even more sure that he saw something that needed changing.

How do you know he wanted to move Tyson? Tyson is better than Dalembert.

He was moved because his contract was about to expire and wasn't part of the future plan

And he was moved because Dallas took Felton off our hands

Felton is the guy EVERYONE in the organization wanted gone but seemed impossible

I agree with this, but when you read some of the Dallas fans comments, they are completely trashing the knicks as a franchise for how they made TYSON look.

We flew so low under the radar last season, most of his comments didn't get much attention. I agreed with a lot of what he had to say last season, but I don't agree with him voicing that sht to the media, He comes off like a cry baby, not a leader.

When he said to the media "I"M NOT USE TO THIS SWITCHING ALL THE TIME, I DON'T REALLY LIKE IT" translation, I'm not buying in.

smackeddog wrote:Interesting Laker fan take on this from the CBS Sports comments:

As a Lakers fan I'll tell you exactly what Phil meant by these comments. Phil meant Chandler lacks loyalty. I remember hearing that Chandler was the guy snitching to the GM/Dolan about Mike Woodson and everything that was going on in the Knicks locker room.

If this correct Phil is right to question Chandler's character.

Tyson was certainly very close to Mills. It's tough- Woody was terrible, but I'm not a fan of players trying to get their coaches fired because it just makes the situation worse (if the coach isn't actually fired)- by the time the players gave up trying to get Woody fired and actually played with effort we started winning, but it was far too late.

The Knicks had a chance to move Chandler at the 2014 trade deadline, but opted against it. Consistent word from those with knowledge of the team’s thinking at the time was that Chandler was off limits, due in part to his relationship with then-team president Steve Mills.

Will Chandler’s status as an “untouchable” change now that Phil Jackson is running the show? That’s unclear at this point. Dealing Chandler this summer could clear some money from the Knicks’ salary cap if the team accepting Chandler has the requisite cap space. Chandler is scheduled to make $14.6 million in 2014-15 — the final year of his contract.

I remember him throwing Woodson under the bus, which I was happy about.
But I also remember him talking about Anthony's effort on defense last year during a post game interview.
That post game interview is what made me so surprised to hear him talk of recruiting Anthony earlier in the summer.
Just for the record I had just finished watching the game that we lost and Anthony's effort on defense was nowhere near the top of our problems in that game.

I'm glad he is gone. It disappoints me to remember the Knicks giving him that contract when they could have held out for a shot at Chris Paul.