smackeddog wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:jrodmc wrote:smackeddog wrote:knickscity wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:knickscity wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:I never said anything about demoralizing kids. I agree that verbal abuse is just as bad as physical abuse. With that said, just bc I don't have kids, you shouldn't assume I am naive or possibly clueless.
Exactly- ridiculous to say only people with kids should be allowed to comment on child abuse!
Read the thread title.
Ohh well excuse me for my ignorance, Mr. UK Thread Police.
I may be inexperienced but I know child psychology and education. I will not go into detail into my thoughts bc typing on my iphone sucks and I am headed into work. You seem to think I am ignorant of this stuff though so I can always pretend I am... And pretend you are right.
This is like allowing someone who plans to go to automotive school someday to try to fix the car you depend on to go to work everyday just because they've read books.This isnt your field, you've already admitted it.
Based on that, I am simply assuming you are a troll because I haven't been posting here like how I used to. I will say I hope you had fun doing so.
That would actually qualify you as the troll. but I'm not the sort to call names around....it's a level I oprefer not to stoop down to.You're offended on something that quite honestly doesnt apply to you at the present, but you felt empowered to diss other views on the subject when you have ZERO experience on the topic at hand. thats why I responded to you. if you noticed others have responded that dont have kids, and the convo has been engaging but they, unlike you stayed in their lane without telling folks their way isnt the right way, when in reality no one can do so.
Sometimes the responses given are based on the statements made.
So can only dog owners comment on people who beat their dogs? Can only married people comment on marital rape? Can only people caring for elderly relatives comment on people who beat their elderly parents? Can only veterans comment on soldiers who abuse civilians? Can only politicians comment on politicians conduct? Your stance is ridiculous- it's inviting collusion.
Can eveyone comment on what it's actually like to play in the NBA? Can everyone comment on what it's like to send other people's kids into war zones? Can everyone comment on what it's actually like to be and serve in a war zone? Can everyone comment on what to do with everyone else's money? Can everyone comment on everything? Doesn't the azzhole rule apply here? You know, about how opinions are fine, because everyone has one.
Just try to maintain some sense of what your credibility level is at with something like raising kids when the biggest dependent you have in your life besides yourself is possibly a pet.
Some things you need to actually experience before expressing better ideas than those who actually have been there done that.
I work with kids and young people who have been hit and worse- I know the impact hitting has on them. On top of that everyone has been raised by a parent or parents and has either been hit or not hit- why the heck are only parents views valid and not the kids or people who have been hit?
An outside perspective is just as valid as an inside perspective- or are you now saying you can't comment on nba players performances this season because you haven't played in the nba?
You sound like a walmart lube tech trying to tell someone what's wrong with their transmission. Stay in your lane, change the oil and filter, and dont forget to put my drain plug back.
Bottom line, some things take experience, i cant believe folks are fighting something so simple.
I really hope you guys dont advice in your everday life from folks who have no experience in what youve got going on.
Parenting is a specialty. No different than a dentist. Would get opinion on a toothache from back specialist? Sure that back doctor has had a toothache himself, so by you guys logic.....no problem.
If you just ask parents all you get is parents opinions- hitting kids affects the kids, but in your line of reasoning their views are irrelevant, only your perspective matters or is valid. As I've already posted, people have commented based on their perspectives as people who have been hit (or not hit) by their parents. I've also added my two cents worth from the perspective of a psychotherapist and as someone who was hit as a kid. Different perspectives are good, they give you a wider view, whether you agree with them or not.
So you really would allow a foot doctor to do a root canal on you.....if his "perspective" sounds good.
Your metaphors makes no sense. According to your logic, it wouldn't matter because I wouldn't be allowed to comment on the end result because I wasn't a dentist...
Actually I'm saying your perspective is irrelevant as you dont have experience....no different than a doctor in a different field should not and wont comment on something that isnt his specialty or his experince area.but here's on that's should drive the point home...
This is a Knicks fan site. Would you welcome Lakers fans or Bobcats fans on this board telling you that your understanding of your team is not only inaccurate but wrong altogether just because they've watched a few games?
I doubt it.
I saw cats totally dismiss a poster on this board because they read he didnt watch a game but commented on it.
The shoe fits.
Unlike you, I don't feel threatened by perspectives different to mine, in fact I find them pretty interesting even if I don't agree with them, so I wouldn't have a problem with laker fans or bobcat fans coming on these boards.
What you're failing to grasp is that everyone has experience on this issue- I don't know how many times I have to explain that to you- I was hit as a kid, so I can offer the perspective of someone who was hit as a kid. I work with the impact being hit can have psychologically and emotionally, therefore I can give the perspective from that side of things. An outside observer can give the perspective of an outside observer. hitting kids isn't just about the parents, it's about the child too- you don't get to silence that perspective- I don't get why you can't grasp this.
What you're failing to grasp is you continually make category errors in your responses. I say you can't comment credibly on what it's actually like to PLAY IN THE NBA, and you ask if that means you can't COMMENT ON PLAYERS PERFORMANCES. See the problem?
No one is saying your opinion doesn't count at all. It's just you don't have the same level or credibility on parenting because you were a kid once that got hit. Or that you deal with abused kids. Or that your a psychotherapist with a practice of 14 billion parents. Would you want to listen to a drunken unemployed ditch digger with a 6th grade education a first year Sociology major who's 19 years old and never worked a professional day in their life explain to you how to deal with your patients and the best way he thinks you should bill them?
KIDS ARE KIDS, PARENTS ARE PARENTS. Try to stay in the category being discussed. I'm sure my kids had great opinions on how I should drive, how I should work, or cut the lawn or fix the car or patch the roof or rake the leaves. Actually, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS PARENT OVER 30 YEARS, I got tons of opinions and directives. Especially if their opinion or directive got them out of doing something they didn't particularly want to do.
Saying I'm a kid and I got hit and that was always bad is not a really great outlook to base an opinion on for parenting. Maybe you were an obnoxious brat. Maybe you got hit in lieu of sticking your hand on the oven burner. Who knows.
I don't think anyone on here is going to say your opinion doesn't count, no matter how different or against the grain it is. It's just not as credible as people who've actually had kids and either failed or succeeded at parenting. Truly, this is not rocket science.
Their are things you actually have to experience to have a truly valid insight on. Looking down at your own sick infant and being willing to rip your own lungs out through your nose to stop their pain is not something you can give directives on unless you've been there. Maybe you don't react that way. Maybe you wouldn't give a sheehit. Maybe you would just flip out. Maybe you would calmly, rationally handle the illness and glow with a saintly aura. But until you are actually in that situation, no amount of book reading, observations, and/or second or third tier experiences will get you to really know who you would be as a parent. It's all conjecture.
I will never know what it's like to be on the court at MSG and throw down 62 points in a live NBA game with 19,000 pairs of eyes fastened on me. I can have opinions about it. I can critique performances, release points and iso-penchants. But I cannot say any of it with any true level of credibility.
If Melo told Tim Duncan what was actually the right way to go about winning NBA rings, what would you say to that?
