yellowboy90 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

bernard wrote:As some others have said, I think the biggest part of last year's problems for Shump were physical. He didn't have the explosion or athleticism of 2 years back. I can't remember more than 1 or 2 big dunks. Was weak finishing around the rim. Was not a dominating ball hawk. Certainly, he isn't the strongest guy mentally and being not quite right physically played with his confidence.

He came back pretty quickly, perhaps before he was ready (look how much time Rose took). I'm hoping he'll be back to where he was physically this year and that his confidence will come back too. I could see a big bounceback year for him.

Why compare to Rose and not to Westbrook?

Obviously everybody heals differently but

Picking the example to try to fit the preferred picture

To paint is a little disingenuous

He probably picked Rose because they were injured on the same day with the same injury. The rehab time for a meniscus is different than an ACL in most cases.

Okay but Westbrook actually had 3 surgeries not 2

As I had figured

Check out some differences below

The point I was getting at////// Westrbook

Looked like his old self almost immediately coming back

Yet his injury is one producing continual discomfort

Scarily, meniscus tears are oftentimes more frightening than ACL tears, in spite of the relatively short recovery time. While an ACL tear may keep a player out for up to a year, and a meniscus tear results in half as long to return from, a compromised repaired meniscus can often lead to perpetual swelling and knee pain, sometimes resulting a career-altering microfracture surgery. While an ACL tear can often result in a cut and dry return to action after an extended period of time, meniscus tears can lead to operation after operation as the player in question experiences continuing discomfort – as we’ve seen with Westbrook’s two post-tear surgeries.

Shump was out pretty much a whole year

He performed well in the playoffs the year he returned

Had a full offseason to recoup

Came back playing like trash

Shump came back in January and he was injured in late April or early May in the previous year. I'm just giving you benard's possible reason. I think most people try to compare players with the same injury.

I would compare Westbrook with Bledsoe since I think both of them had their meniscus partially removed. Rose on the other hand had his repaired which takes longer but has the potential of greater long term success.

Now do I give him an excuse for the season he came back in, yes. Last year was all him. I guess one can argue he had surgery in the off season but you need to show something as the year progress. Despite what I think of him this is his payday year. So if he doesn't perform this year I doubt anyone will excuse him.

CrushAlot wrote:I think Phil trades him if he can.

I don't know about that. I have to disagree a little in regard to the make up of the roster. This team is extremely well balanced. In fact it's more balanced than I can remember in recent history. We're deep at every position. I think this is a VERY SOLID roster. In the future we only really need to upgrade at PG, PF and maybe C.
Adding a younger PG to replace Prigs. Replacing STAT or Bargs with a younger 2 way PF. Likely only replacing Dalembert with a younger C. For this season I think we have nice coverage at every position.

New York Knicks
POS	        STARTER	            2ND	                3RD	
Point Guard	Jose Calderon	    Pablo Prigioni      Shane Larkin		
Shooting Guard	J.R. Smith	    Tim Hardaway Jr.    Iman Shumpert	     		
Small Forward	Carmelo Anthony	    Cleanthony Early    Travis Outlaw			
Power Forward	Amar'e Stoudemire   Andrea Bargnani     Quincy Acy		
Center	        Jason Smith	    Samuel Dalembert    Cole Aldrich

F500ONE wrote:

Shump was out pretty much a whole year

He performed well in the playoffs the year he returned

Had a full offseason to recoup

Came back playing like trash

He had offseason knee surgery last year in the offseason and couldn't work out. Came to camp out of shape.

jrodmc wrote:Great, now hit those open shots.

Amen.