TripleThreat wrote:EnySpree wrote:Realgm just posted an article reporting some gm said he's untradeable. If feel that's a baiting topic for Knicks fans. Amare for Kobe straight up works. It gets the Lakers out of the deal and Kobe becomes a hired Mamba.
If there is a place Kobe would play for other than the Lakers it would be for the Knicks.
Kobe is a psycho, so I bet the dude has 2 high level seasons under his belt. The knicks have no bigmen, but if Kobe is Kobe then this could be the same old knicks move that gets us a championship.
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Reasons why the Lakers would never make this trade
1) Bryant has value to the Lakers in terms of chasing Jabbar's NBA scoring record. No different than the Yankees overpaying to market for Derek Jeter to chase 3000 hits in a Yankees uniform. There is an implied marketing value to that, esp to a team that is set up not to contend nor even sniff the playoffs this year or probably next.
2) Like the Yankees, the Lakers signed a huge local TV deal. Which puts massive pressure on them, like the Yankees and the YES Network, to push out marketable players and something to draw in viewers. Bryant, even in decline, is a known NBA quantity and has a very large international fan base ( I guess many people outside the Western world didn't get blitzed with Kobe's rape saga, thus might still want to root for him)
3) The Lakers have a glut at power forward. They already overpaid Jordan Hill and drafted Julius Randle and won the amnesty bid on Boozer. They would be gutting themselves at wing/SF and adding to an already overstocked position on their roster. The more minutes they take away from Randle, the slower they develop him, in so much as he can be developed.
4) NO ONE IN THE LEAGUE WANTS STAT IN TRADE. Except for the Sixers possibly wanting him for money saving purposes, no team in the league sees him as an asset of any kind unless the Knicks package a pick or a young player to essentially take his expiring. Forget what happened TWO or THREE years ago in trades, right now, the current market exists that if you want to jettison a bad contract, a bad expiring, onto a team with open cap space, they will "rent" that space to you for a pick, picks or a young player or combination of both.
While Bryant has played in the Triangle and Fisher might be the only coach who can tame his worst tendencies since they are clearly friends, I don't see how he helps the Knicks. First, no one knows what kind of player you are getting back. He is old, has a lot of minutes on his tread and suffered a massive injury for his age.
He's also a lazy/non committed defender, has horrible shot selection, won't play team ball and will trash coaches and/or team mates in public.
When Melo takes bad shots, there's a part of me that equates it to ignorance. Selfish through ignorance.
When Kobe takes bad shots, shotjacks, won't play defense or runs a 8-32 shooting night while freezing out his team mates, you can see the open malice. He could be a team player, he just doesn't care to do so.
Something someone once told me when I was young is you can marry a pretty girl just because she is pretty and has a big rack, but if she has no positive/worthwhile internal qualities, then when she gets old, all she is a broken down used up has been nagging whore. Her big tits were the only reason anyone would put up with her rancid POS demeanor for all that time.
That's Kobe Bryant. When he was young, he had so much talent that many people overlooked his horse **** defense, his trashing of his team mates, his disrespect of his coaches, his rape scandal, his infidelity in public, his cursing sessions near the media, his homophobic slurs yelled out during games. Now with his talent eroded, and aging and coming back from major injury, that's all Kobe Bryant is now, just a broken down nagging POS whore. His "big tits" are sagging and shriveled up now. Now it's more clear to see his true faults as a player.
While Early and THJ and Larkin might not pan out, do you really want a POS shot jacking rapist like Kobe near the Knicks young players?
How can you try to convince Melo to actually try to play team ball when Kobe would be a black hole on offense, you'd pass the ball to him and never see it again.
The easiest way to smell like garbage is to stand next to trash. No thanks, I don't want Bryant as a Knick. Though watching Jack Nicholson freak out over STAT's stupid array of hats would have some comedic value.
Wow bashing Kobe? the last time I looked he has 5 rings and has been to the finals 7 times. He only had one losing season w the Lakers when healthy and when he was they had a winning % above 65% on average. Kobe's last healthy year he was still better than Carmelo's best year ever at any age. The guy was loyal was a hard worker and a big big time winner in this league.