F500ONE wrote:Dagger wrote:F500ONE wrote:Dagger wrote:F500ONE wrote:H1AND1 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:F500ONE wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:Dagger wrote:gunsnewing wrote:he's young. there's still hope for Paul George
Hope that he won't become Melo? Lol
Don't worry he doesn't have the offensive skillset
lolz
lolza we're paying $35mil more for a player who attempts 4 more FGA/gm, only averages 6ppg more, & 6yrs older than George
only $35mil more? Isn't it for like $90mil more for Melo?
George is a max player. Just for a lesser amount cause he's younger.
5 years/91 million. I believe it's the most he could get at his age, etc.
I could care less about Max labels.
Melo should not be paid more than the Blake's PG's Rose's Westbrook's of the NBA
Especially after he's already made 2 Max worthy contracts///// Denver and our extension
He probably should be making what Harden is making at best $80mil.
It's one thing I hope the new CBA establishes with definitive language who qualifies as Max talents
That's impossible, don't be silly.
There's nothing silly about what I said.
There's language in the NBA currently defining Rookie Scale Max///// often referred to as Derrick Rose Max
Go look it up if you think I'm bluffing
The rookie scale is calculated by draft pick number. That's based on a number, what you're suggesting is purely subjective. How do you think it should be determined (in your hypothetical example) who gets the max? What determinants would be used to say this player is truly worth a Max and this one isn't?
There's this wonderful tool I used to find this information.
I fired up another tab in my browser locating it on this thing called the internet
According to a memo NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter sent to his Board of Directors, the tentative agreement between the NBPA and NBA included the following change for max salaries: “Max Salary: A player finishing his rookie scale contract will be eligible to receive a maximum salary equal to 30% of the Cap (up from 25%) if he signs with his prior team and is either: 1st, 2nd or 3rd team All-NBA 2 times; an All-Star starter 2 times; or 1-time MVP.”
They need to add more language here as you graduate to the different levels of Max.
So 35% Max which comes in seasons 7-9 I believe could say something like
According to a memo NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter sent to his Board of Directors, the tentative agreement between the NBPA and NBA included the following change for max salaries: “Max Salary: A player finishing his last season of deal contract will be eligible to receive a maximum salary equal to 35% of the Cap if he signs with his prior team and is either: 1st, 2nd team All-NBA 4 times; an All-Star starter 4 times; or 1-time MVP; Made it Out Of The First Round of Playoffs 4 times; Been to 3 Conference Finals; Been to the Finals; Won a Championship; Led The League In Scoring in Back-to-Back Seasons; etc etc.”
Every player can't be considered an absolute Max every time they're due up for a contract, just because they maintained status quo play.
The stuff you added in the second "quote" is all circumstantial, personally I say it shouldn't matter whether or not a player has won a championship or not in determining whether they are worth a certain level max for example. None of those rules have been put into effect yet, from what I can tell based on the info you posted, and awards like 1st team or 2nd team all-nba etc. don't really seem like a great way to measure value when players can emerge at any time as stars in the right situation.
Essentially, what I believed you were saying is they should come up with a cutoff of which players can get any sort of max and which players cannot, now I see you were saying that there should be different cut-offs determining what type of max salary they can get. That makes more sense, but basing it off awards still seems far-fetched to me.
Also, leave the attitude at the door please. You want to make a point YOU look it up.