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fishmike
Posts: 53124 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
4/24/2014 7:19 AM
http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/players-trashed-woodson-in-exit-interviews-jackson/
“One of the messages from the players was that it was a very talented team,’’ Jackson said. “They had to have a lot of games where they forced their talent on opposing teams rather than playing with freedom to make things easy. All the wins were hard to get. They were winning with talent and not with team play, which I thought was an accurate statement. Does that sound like someone looking to gut and rebuild? "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Moonangie
Posts: 24733 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
4/24/2014 10:08 AM
Well, this certainly does... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/sports/basketball/jackson-expects-anthony-to-accept-less-for-good-of-knicks.html?ref=sports
GREENBURGH, N.Y. — Phil Jackson’s first postseason news conference began with the statement that “there is no news.” But Jackson, the Knicks’ new $60 million team president, has been a longtime newsmaker, an N.B.A. lightning rod. He almost cannot help it. |
fishmike
Posts: 53124 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
4/24/2014 10:35 AM
Moonangie wrote:Well, this certainly does... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/sports/basketball/jackson-expects-anthony-to-accept-less-for-good-of-knicks.html?ref=sportsI dont see a single thing that suggests he's rebuilding. What did I miss? All I see is if guys arent dedicated to what we are trying to do then see ya. How does that = rebuilding?GREENBURGH, N.Y. — Phil Jackson’s first postseason news conference began with the statement that “there is no news.” But Jackson, the Knicks’ new $60 million team president, has been a longtime newsmaker, an N.B.A. lightning rod. He almost cannot help it. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Moonangie
Posts: 24733 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
4/24/2014 10:49 AM
fishmike wrote:Moonangie wrote:Well, this certainly does... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/sports/basketball/jackson-expects-anthony-to-accept-less-for-good-of-knicks.html?ref=sportsI dont see a single thing that suggests he's rebuilding. What did I miss? All I see is if guys arent dedicated to what we are trying to do then see ya. How does that = rebuilding?GREENBURGH, N.Y. — Phil Jackson’s first postseason news conference began with the statement that “there is no news.” But Jackson, the Knicks’ new $60 million team president, has been a longtime newsmaker, an N.B.A. lightning rod. He almost cannot help it. It doesn't necessarily mean "rebuilding through the draft". But changing the culture, moving to a ball movement triangle offense, expecting players to "buy in" to a philosophy, and moving out players who don't/won't/can't comply = rebuilding in deeper and more important way. That's all I meant. Phil = change. |
dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
4/24/2014 11:17 AM LAST EDITED: 4/24/2014 11:18 AM
Moonangie wrote:fishmike wrote:Moonangie wrote:Well, this certainly does... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/sports/basketball/jackson-expects-anthony-to-accept-less-for-good-of-knicks.html?ref=sportsI dont see a single thing that suggests he's rebuilding. What did I miss? All I see is if guys arent dedicated to what we are trying to do then see ya. How does that = rebuilding?GREENBURGH, N.Y. — Phil Jackson’s first postseason news conference began with the statement that “there is no news.” But Jackson, the Knicks’ new $60 million team president, has been a longtime newsmaker, an N.B.A. lightning rod. He almost cannot help it. when has carmelo ever "bought into" anything with his "whole being" except getting his points and getting his money? i say he's gone. "if it's not in the cards then we are fortunate." there will be no "wooing" of carmelo primadonna anthony. i mean think about it for a second: who was responsible for bringing melo here other than dolan? and is jackson in charge now with full autonomy? i wonder where carmelo will be setting up shop to have all these gm's come, hat in hand, to woo him? knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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azamatbagatov
Posts: 20336 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2007 Member: #1713 |
4/24/2014 12:32 PM
fishmike wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/players-trashed-woodson-in-exit-interviews-jackson/“One of the messages from the players was that it was a very talented team,’’ Jackson said. “They had to have a lot of games where they forced their talent on opposing teams rather than playing with freedom to make things easy. All the wins were hard to get. They were winning with talent and not with team play, which I thought was an accurate statement. Not sure that has anything to do with rebuilding or not. Why would the team president/GM not go out and talk up the talent on his team, especially if he may be looking to move some of that personnel in trades? If he is out publically saying how horrible the players are; he is bringing down their trade value "I want to leave a legacy." ~ Isiah Thomas
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
4/24/2014 12:36 PM
azamatbagatov wrote:fishmike wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/players-trashed-woodson-in-exit-interviews-jackson/“One of the messages from the players was that it was a very talented team,’’ Jackson said. “They had to have a lot of games where they forced their talent on opposing teams rather than playing with freedom to make things easy. All the wins were hard to get. They were winning with talent and not with team play, which I thought was an accurate statement. Yeah, I don't know why anyone would take seriously what a team GM or Pres tells the media. Like any corporate executive, they just tell the story that they think will be most useful to them. |
dk7th
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4/24/2014 12:48 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:azamatbagatov wrote:fishmike wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/players-trashed-woodson-in-exit-interviews-jackson/“One of the messages from the players was that it was a very talented team,’’ Jackson said. “They had to have a lot of games where they forced their talent on opposing teams rather than playing with freedom to make things easy. All the wins were hard to get. They were winning with talent and not with team play, which I thought was an accurate statement. he is cagey like walsh was cagey, but his vibe is refreshingly different. he does a good job making reporters pay for asking stupid and leading questions. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th
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4/24/2014 1:20 PM
JS3 wrote:last season we weren't rebuilding, how is that worked for us? you're just highlighting the main dilemma of the melo trade: for all this "win-now mode" that the melo trade jolted the knicks into, it came at too high a price. jeremy lin saved the knicks two seasons ago-- without him the melo-centric knicks don't even make the playoffs. you can look it up! http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012.html. one tin-plated regular season triumph since 2010-2011 is evidence of how poorly-constructed this roster has been since february 2011. melo = mark aguirre. how much is he worth to the knicks? knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/24/2014 1:36 PM
azamatbagatov wrote:fishmike wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/players-trashed-woodson-in-exit-interviews-jackson/“One of the messages from the players was that it was a very talented team,’’ Jackson said. “They had to have a lot of games where they forced their talent on opposing teams rather than playing with freedom to make things easy. All the wins were hard to get. They were winning with talent and not with team play, which I thought was an accurate statement. exactly.... trashing the talent is not going to help your cause when it comes time to move them.... Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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