LivingLegend wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Amare who came into the league in a system that stressed playing as a team. All the things said here between playa, nix, myself & others regarding guys refusal to buy into Michael Woodson's offense and defensive strategies because they disagreed with it was just confirmed by Amare. Stupid switching on pnr's, back door plays and stupid ISO whether it was him or melo he's the coach. All the late game blunders by he himself and his players which again he is responsible for. Total misuse of the roster. Melo 40mins. No Cole, Turray, Tyler who were starving for a chance. Misuse of Amare early. Shitty treatment of Shumpert. Letting JR do whatever he wanted early. Different set of rules for different players. If not for Phil's presense we don't win 25 games. I dont think Michael Woodson will ever be a head coach in the nba again.
Amare says next year they need to be on the same page starting day 1 of camp whatever the plan is.
Thanks Woody. Thank You for subjecting me to the most putrid, pathetic, inexplicably terrible brand of basketball I've ever seen from a team on any level. Thank You for 37-45. 1978 is calling
Why would you bash Woodson when he was the same coach with same system that had them #2 in the East and with 54 wins in 2012/13?
It was the players who quit on Woodson and all of us fans. Woodson never quit - he kept trying -- it was chumps like Tyson/Stat/JR/Shump that threw the season down the toilet. Woodson just stayed with a basic system that has made him a solid coach in the league. I believe he ends this season being +30 games over 500 as a Knicks coach ---
ARE YA Kidding ? LL
You gotta be crazy, as far as winning 2nd round 2012/2013 exit NBA playoffs of course Woodson coached and gets kudos credit.
But you're mad to even speak about a System and Mike Woodson like he accomplished alot outside 54 win season that vets
like JKidd, KThomas and IL-Sheed Wallace led Knicks lockerroom and policed oncourt stuff which aided Woodson and Knicks roster
to Winning!
Lets talk about this post (Thanks Gunsewing!) and the Current Knick coach Mike Woodson whom seem not even into coaching
for his NBA-Knick Life and job back in late January-February.
Lets talk about a coach whom pinned his stubborness to 2 guys outside #1 multi-time superstar/hard worker Melo Anthony
the 2 guys ya know are named JR Smith and PG Raymond Felton.
Woodson earlier in season (Dec. 2013) when NYK began stumbling a quote "We'll I'll tell u guys media I wish JR and Raymond Felton
was here, we'd be fine". PROBLEMO#1. You going to Annoit Raymond Felton and JR Smith 2 Knicks whom privatedly disrespect the
coach, disrupted Knicks scheme both On /court and off court with their inability to play basketball but was rewarded BIG Time minutes
behind Carmelo Anthony.
Lets also talk about a coach 2nd quote in MSG infamous post-game "We'll fellas I been ya know coachin' in league for a long time &
as far as this home loss Its never my job Or Its not up to me to motivate these guys coming into the game being played"!
OH REALLY WOODSON ? eh?
Lets talk bout' another coach Woodson quote "We'll last time I checked the champs Miami Heat won their 1st NBA title with LBJ &
last time checked Miami led NBA in three(3) Point shots/makes to win NBA Title!". So Woodson system wants to win NBA title
with 3-point shots and his Knick 2014 team was near BOTTOM in three(3) points which coach Woodson ignored. JR record attempts/3's
isn't an accident!
Livinglegend this is a NBA Coach you're stating has a system ? in NBA ? 54 win team ?
Ok back to Woodson again.
The ineffective defensive frowner Tyson Chandler begins complaining privately about things needing changing, then publicly
on the woes "switching defense" and we here all this more than once!from Chandler. Knicks fans when Tyson is right we're in
good spot to win & when Tyson is Not right (disinterested) We stink defensively as most of season showed. I could care less
for Tyson Chandler right now but if something as "switching defense" isnt working for a team not noted for D' at 2013/2014 outset
maybe things needed changing from a coach whom is in charge of his team's defense. So Chandler gripes had a point.
Now we come to Melo Anthony whom we see off & on and off & on support of Woodson, however when a Melo 'dig' comes at Woody
its subtle. Like Melo at end of game screaming to coach about "What play are we running ?" Doesn't sound like after awhile
Melo was all about ISO-Melo , ISO-JR.
Now finally Amare putting a stake yesterday in Coach Woodson , Stout says "We didnt buy into game plan schemes whether Defensively
OR Offensively".
Amare statements are most telling & DJ gives him a pass cause Amare been playing his A_ss off from about Dec.2013 to season end
April 2014. HE may have not got right to put dirt on Woodson at end of season BUT Stoudemire said alot about team not buying
into things which let to season collapse. Amare earned right to speak this time.
Why?
Well Tyson won a ring, Amare has done few things in NBA of prominence with the Phoenix Suns, and 1st yr nearly MVP candidate with
Amare's great play before Melo arrival after trade. All Stoudemire, and Tyson and Melo remarks tells you that several of teams
best players at some point (not Tyson in 2014) lost respect for Coach Mike Woodson preference of JR Smith, of Raymond Felton &
likely disrespect of Iman Shumpert by Woodson & Knick Management to Shumpert whom tried to be a Knick through his problems.
All in all you alienate few guys whom could have been more leaders BUT Mike Woodson forgot to listen to them a bit, cause Woodson
is as stubborn as any NY NBA Knick coach ever had. And Now Mr Woodson is plea to media (whom he calls 'you guys') for his Knick
job being given another chance.
Mike Woodson lost the team, didnt have care to change his ways.
Mike "Its one me" but never EVER EVER Showed good Knick fans he had a plan, to pull knicks out of abysss.
You're better leaders (Melo, Ty, Amare) was screaming for Change/ new plans and plays ! Again Mr Stoudemire & Mr Melo, Mr Tyson
did few things more in NBA than JR and Raymond Felton ever done in this season.
But MR. Woodson rather worry bout JR Smith being on court tying shoelaces and availability of JR to shoot Knicks to wins!
and as far as PG play & marital woes of Raymond Felton these 2 Knicks germs got more respect than Amare Stout period!
If you OR me without experience as coach say "Hey how about getting me a rebound ?" or "A good pass", or simple things
in pro basketball to establish ROLES simple F$($&$%L_ucking) ROLES among any of his roster players, such as Aldrich, Murrey,
Iman Shumpert and on and on .. Knicks would have some IDENTITY of something they did Pretty well OR near top of NBA East with
other than the no. of sh_itting 3-point shots hoisted up by 12 man roster that Michael Woodson craves as pro game plan.
WOODSON game plan:
1. 3 point shots made/takes
2. ISO-Melo, ISO JR
This is a coach whom had rep as Defensive NBA Guru, Oh really ? REALLY ?
Woodson the only pro coach whom team could lose game after giving up 108 points then say in post gm. comments
"Well I think out defense was good, we needed to be better on offense!" No mention on stops.
This is a coach whom I think is a nice guy away from pro hoops, however Gunsewing is 150% correct that Mike Woodson wont get
a NBA Lead head coach job anytime soon! He did well 1 yr for NY thanks Mr Woodson but Tired of folks sticking up for this guy
like he deserves NO blame in big picture of things, is reason why he is no longer a topic next season in Knick-land!
Amen, thank god, amen...