Convince Carmelo to resign for less and assure him that load will be taken off him

Keep JR Shumpert Hardaway Cole A Amare Bargs Felton(as back up) J Tyler Pablo P (Carmelo A)

gone Martin Murry Chandler --questionable Shannon Brown

If I can focus on on one move--I would try to trade Tyson Chandler for Tyreke Evans and put him at our starting PG

Buy 2 draft picks under 45 and draft Jordan Bachyinshki and Deandre Kane. With Aldrich Tyler Bargs and Jordan B--we would have a slew of C(could also be interested in Cory Jefferson if he falls that far) caveat--if we get higher picks--then there are different names involved.

Bonn1997 wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Chandler isn't the problem. And his contract expires next year, so would be taking back more money and jeopardizing 2015.

I say we explore s&t with Houston...take back all their 1 year contracts and roll the dice.

Yeah, I don't want Tyreke Evans unless we're also getting Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, and Isiah Rider (out of retirement)

Vmart wrote:All moves are predicated on Anthony staying or going. Once he decides the Knicks can start wheeling and dealing. I know that some players let the season go and did nothing for the team those players need to go there is no keeping Shump, JR and Chandler. Some we might be stuck with Amare and Bargs come to mind. Make no mistake the players all let their true colors shine through this year. A lot of them put themselves ahead of the team concept and it hurt the Knicks. Phil needs filter those type of players.

True if Melo leaves all bets are off. If not--Id try to get a star type PG--I think Tyreke is undervalued used wrong. I think here at 6-6 225 he could be the second star we need. You put him with Amare and Carmelo add some younger depth at PF give another year to Shump TJR Cole Tyler to get better--add in a hard nosed under the radar PF like Adrien who has played very very well in Milwaukee and has a winners attitude--bring in 2 4 year college players who can help with depth and play now fit in right away--Im not worried about Lamar Odom hes 35-36 and hes not what I would like for this team
Lets say we got Jefferson and Jordan B out of the draft

C- Aldrich Bargani Tyler Jordan B

PF Amare Adrien Jefferson

Sf Anthony Shumpert

SG J R Smith 6th man THJ

PG Tyreke Felton Pablo

Maybe add a SG/SF left over from vet city

BRIGGS wrote:First off we need a fresh rebuild in the coaching staff including Herb--everyone needs to go

Convince Carmelo to resign for less and assure him that load will be taken off him

Keep JR Shumpert Hardaway Cole A Amare Bargs Felton(as back up) S Brown J Tyler Pablo P (Carmelo A)

gone Martin Murry Chandler

If I can focus on on one move--I would try to trade Tyson Chandler for Tyreke Evans and put him at our starting PG

Buy 2 draft picks under 40 and draft Jordan Bachyinshki and Deandre Kane. With Aldrich Tyler Bargs and Jordan B--we would have a slew of C(could also be interested in Cory Jefferson if he falls that far)

Instead of signing odom Id sign Jeff Adrien to a 2 year 4mm $ contract

I agree with your moves on the current players on the roster, but i would give boston tyson/felton and some future picks for rondo.

Dont know if Rondo is a good Triangle player as he cant really shoot a jumpers, but he's the championship/vet pg that we need

BTW Herb needs to be re-assign to other duties, maybe assistant on our Dleague team..he's a fixture in the organization

Plan
- sign a decent stop gap PG with wheels (Sessions, patty mills, devin harris, aaron brooks, ridnour, hinrich, livingston, bayless, mack)
- obtain a solid back up center (Nazi mohammad, ry. hollins, jordan hill, jason smith, aaron gray, drew gordon)
- in my opinion, if youre relying on Cole aldrich in your rotation then your in trouble. SMH
- also with the triangle offense, you dont need a traditional PG to do much

Lineup Plan A (45-50 win team)
PG (free agent)/felton/prigs
SG Shumpert/JR smith/Hardaway
SF Melo/ (free agent)/(free agent)
PF Amare/ Bargnani/(Odom)
C Chandler/ (free agent)/ Tyler

Lineup Plan B (35-40 win team)
PG (free agent)/felton/ Prigs
SG Shumpert/Hardaway/ Shan Brown
SF JR smith/(free agent)/(free agent)
PF Amare/ Bargnani/(Odom)
C Chandler/ (free agent)/Tyler

franco12 wrote:I like a lot of these thoughts - but I almost think if Melo opts out- you almost have to try to tank next year- I worry without Anthony (and with for that matter) we're just good enough to either squeak into the play offs or just finish at the back of the lottery- thus preventing us from having a shot at a franchise impact talent.

A star type PG would really help the team--look what it did for Toronto. My thinking is that Chandler is easily a give up--Im sure we can be effective with a solid C rotation--Id love to get Asik but I dont see it. I would easily put Asik in there but we just dont have the value--I dont know if we have the value to get Evans--but the Pelicans have too many PGs and spent too much $ at that position.

Dagger wrote:Keeping Felton is a mistake and the justice system will take him for free so he's probably gone.

Felton is under contract and would be a high quality back up who could step in if needed. If you want to upgrade Prigs--I think we can do that--maybe a Freddette??. We must mandate Felton to keep coming in lighter. If we get a star(really good) type PG felton for 10-15 minutes is fine.

I like this team but we need some tinkering. Id like to see if we can get 1 of

#1 Evans
#2 Asik
#3 Lowry

1 of these three--we need another really good player and I d like to take advantage of this deep draft and bring in two young bigs or a big and a PG etc... Im looking for quality depth and with a new younger coach who can give everyone a chance to earn minutes. Having more quality rotational players also keeps us away from injury issues causing losses. If we ended up with Asik we'd have to find another PG who is avail for the 3 year 10mm$ or Im willing to go all in with an ending contract trde for the right one. Im not sold on FA--why not get better right now?

go get tyreke, but make sure you get 30 year old pierce, ray and kg to go with it.

look at this dreck. the man is no joe johnson. not even close.

http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201936