dk7th wrote:TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:TeamBall wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm so tired of people who don't know ish bashing MDA anytime we talk about Woodson!!! Woodson was NOT responsible for that 18-6 and he clearly wasn't the architect of the small ball they played last year. If anyone paid a lick of attention to what Woodson has done as a coach they'd know he's garbage. Woody's plays don't lead to high % shots. He makes things easy for opposing defenses. The style this team played last year was counter to everything Woodson has ever done and he abandoned that style in the playoffs and went back to what he had always done. ISO BALL.In the playoffs we all saw what his idea of BB was. He was PUTRID when he tried to come up with any adjustments and was thoroughly out coached. He's been AWFUL coming up with any schemes to win games and has been the worst coach in using Melo to close out games. His defense is a fraud and he has no offense to speak of. Dude just rode a hot shooting team or hot Melo to some win streaks but he had NOTHING to do with it. If you believe he did explain the specific offensive plays he came up with that consistently led to good BB! This team under Woodson has played simplistic and low IQ BB. It's a reflection on him and his weak BB mind.
Pretty much (and i'm not even an MDA guy). It's not just the players who resort to bad habits when things get ugly
Call me crazy but some guys actually coach to what best suits their roster....
that's not just crazy it's stupid
Pat Riley, Doc and Pop have changed their coaching styles and philosophy over the years to suit their rosters...They must be stupid...History have a place for people unwilling to change...
the essence of your ignorant post is that you don't recognize that all three coaches had success by insisting that everyone play defense. and secondly all three have had franchise-level players to work with.
carmelo anthony is not a franchise player but he thinks he is, and unfortunately woodson is too stupid to recognize that carmelo anthony is not a franchise player either.
as a result you have the knicks being a convoluted mess.
Franchise player or not MDA should be able to adapt. If you give him any team in the league hes gonna try to make them run his system instead of looking at the personnel and discovering what's best.
i never said he was a great coach. what is this "should" nonsense? he is what he is. he had success with nash because nash was absolutely perfect for d'antoni ball. he had limited success in new york because he never had a point guard like nash. and once melo arrived it was over. same thing in los angeles. if he had marshal alone and no bryant or gasol then d'antoni would have had more success. you cannot argue with d'antoni's success in phoenix. he was a nose gash and a double suspension away from a title. phoenix would have run cleveland out of the gym that year.
system basketball works although a case can be made for some systems being more adaptable than others.
simple!
Fair post.
He did a very good job in PHX. Nash became the most efficient NBA player I have ever seen under him and his system - he deserves some credit. But he should thank his lucky stars that he had Nash.
He certainly does not know how or have any interest in running anything else other than his system and does not do well with players that do not have the skill set he requires. He may have done well with the Stockton Jazz as well though that team played really solid 2 way basketball. I don't think he stresses defense because his philosophy is to outrun, outgun and outscore. Dangerous without the right squad.
Melo was certainly not his type of player but he is not Phil's type either so he will either change him or let him go. Interesting that Coach K used Melo in the way that MDA wanted to however the olympic team had many creators who could get him open looks. He should see that his best asset is his outside shooting off assisted plays. His midrange game/High post game is too taxing and subjected to exhaustion and injury. And, his end of game shot selection with Woody's help has been hideous this year.
They were just not a pair mentally - both too dead set in their ways. However, if Melo bought in and walsh/grunfeld actually gave him a PG they could have done well together. So happy that we had TD shooting wide open three's all over the court.
So wrong! Blame MDA, blame Melo but knicks management is really the ones to blame. The 1st and 3rd moves were far worse than the second.
so here is what phil is thinking ....