dk7th wrote:

Anji wrote:

dk7th wrote:smith and melo combine for 14-44 32%

rest of team 18-39 for 46%

if celtics take care of the ball the last couple of possessions lets face it they win.

so we are waiting for felton to help melo and smith get better shots right?

Co-sign, those aren't winning Adobe Grid Fillers.

Boston should appeal in the National Fantasy League.

*Mean While in the NBA*

Tough game, Celtics play great defense and play us tough all the time.

But knicks win, knics win, kincks win.

Can't wait til Felton is back.

look at my sig-- it's not that you win it's how you win.

you may not see that as relevant because you are living in the moment like many others in the knick fanbase.

me? i project what i see onto the playoffs and i don't see us winning a second round series.

who is living in a fantasy world?

#Knicktape

At our valley we are still better than most, why don't you suck on that and wonder where we will be when we start to peek.

Completely agree with the 2nd part of your post though

gunsnewing wrote:Woodson went 18-6 with Davis and Bibby at PG. Dantoni was fired because the team collapsed again after Linsanity peaked ad Melo and Amare returned. He couldn't get those 3 to play together. Woodson took over and went 6-1 with those same 3. 18-6 overall

Completely agree with the 2nd part of your post though

I repeat MELO wasn't really trying to make it work. You have to have the support of your teams best player. Do we have to go over this again and again before someone will acknowledge that Melo wasn't giving it his all as he openly admitted? He then went to the Olympics and did EXACTLY what MDA was asking him to do. It's not even a question that Melo wasn't doing everything he could to make it work. If you have any teams best player who handles the ball at a high rate just simply not trying to fit into the team concept it's not gonna work. Also we saw Melo's overall effort level on both ends pick up, which was a HUGE change and that happened even before a single practice had taken place. It was just a decision by Melo to try harder, with no technical changes by Woody made.

It's a really simple thing. If you're a great offensive coach that has a history of having a top of the league efficient offense, you don't forget how to coach. You need willing participants from your best players. ie everyone bought in during Linsanity and as soon as Melo came back that went away cuz you can't have your top player just refusing to buy in. It's that simple.

This year Melo started off really buying in and so was JR. They've both slipped into selfish BB and that along with Felton being out has made things worse. Hopefully they can get it back.

dk7th wrote:smith and melo combine for 14-44 32%

rest of team 18-39 for 46%

if celtics take care of the ball the last couple of possessions lets face it they win.

so we are waiting for felton to help melo and smith get better shots right?

Papabear Says

Ha Ha Well if JR Smith made his shots in the first half we would have blew them out. Would have could have, should have don't make since!!! It's who won the game?? We the Knicks did.

dk7th wrote:

Anji wrote:

dk7th wrote:smith and melo combine for 14-44 32%

rest of team 18-39 for 46%

if celtics take care of the ball the last couple of possessions lets face it they win.

so we are waiting for felton to help melo and smith get better shots right?

Co-sign, those aren't winning Adobe Grid Fillers.

Boston should appeal in the National Fantasy League.

*Mean While in the NBA*

Tough game, Celtics play great defense and play us tough all the time.

But knicks win, knics win, kincks win.

Can't wait til Felton is back.

look at my sig-- it's not that you win it's how you win.

you may not see that as relevant because you are living in the moment like many others in the knick fanbase.

me? i project what i see onto the playoffs and i don't see us winning a second round series.

who is living in a fantasy world?

Papabear Says

You are living in a fantasy world. Hell the Knicks haven't won a first round in over 13 years so whats the big deal? I would be happy if we get to the second round. As for us winning it all. yes I want that most of all so stop putting demand on this team like that. You should be happy for what we've done so far. Stop hating.

nixluva wrote:The idea that MDA couldn't figure out how to use STAT and Melo is really a bit odd to me. For one thing the real issue was a lack of a capable PG and when he did get a capable PG you could at least see some semblance of flow. Also you MUST have your best player buy into the TEAM BALL concept. Melo wasn't doing that and then early this year Melo was much better at playing team ball as was JR. Both have slipped back into selfish BB tendencies. That is what is kind of happening in LA. Kobe is going solo, Dwight is being a bitch and it just makes the game harder for the role players to fit in around what should be a well executed game plan by the teams best players. However, if D12 doesn't want to set picks for Nash and Kobe wants to take 25-30 shots then your role players don't know where to fit in and you have a mess. It always starts with players buying in and trusting the game plan and a team concept. When players get selfish it makes you look bad.

My problem with Woody is that he's not controlling JR or Melo but rather letting them play selfish BB. That's why things haven't been as smooth as they were earlier in the year. Whenever they do actually pass the ball, like on that 3pt'er off a pass from Melo to Kidd to JR, that was good BB. If you execute like that every time then you open up even more options for STAT and Tyson down low.

yellowboy90 wrote:Quietly the defense for the Knicks has picked up the last 4-5 games.

Which just happens to coincide with us playing really bad offensive teams the last 4 games. Let's see what happens when we play a team with a decent offense again.

how did we win with Legwarmers and Melo shooting 14-44?

Good to see Amar'e have a decent game,

Anji wrote:I'd give the Game Ball to Woodson. He got those guys to play the Zone like their life depended on it in the 2nd quarter, really saved the game for us.

I dont know about giving the game ball to Woodson,but getting them to play that box and 1 zone in the 3rd qt was pure genius.