GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

NUPE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:Actually this board hasn't been overtaken by anybody. For the most part there are major differences of opinion on where we're headed and life cycle of the current group but not a big deal as long as everyone stays consistent where they stand in discussions....

Instead of making a thread such as this one....you could have easily started a thread touching on all the things you like and have seen in the 5gms thus far. Nope you went stoke the FLAME route with a very BROAD stroke

If you go to a Rocket forum you'll see them complaining about various things concerning their club but every fan there could be penning Hallmark posts on the bright future and flexibility they have going forward. Of course not everyone is a robot or programmed as such, it's what makes us who we are as fans.

Guess what, eventually you come to find no matter what sport forum you go to, there will be splits here and there on major and minor issues.

For the record I've stated exactly this several times...."This could be the year I'm proven wrong on how I feel about the team"...before any game was played. I would have no problem if it happens. I've even complimented J.R. Smith a player I've loathed over the yrs for stepping up his play this season.

Great post... I would be happy to be proven wrong,but what I won't do, is bash former players that we have had on this team in order to justify the current direction.. doesn't matter if I like the direction or not...

And really why question if someone is a real knick fan because they don't like the current team... I mean a real fan is passionate about his team.. positive or negative... go to the rockets board and you will get feelings and opinions all over the place, and sometimes it really makes for interesting conversation...

forgive me for not being overjoyed after 5 games, I have been down this road before with this team.... and that is with a team of guys I liked and believed in... this group? Is going to have to earn my fandom....EARN IT!!!

Knicks come out of training camp and lose a ton of games every year during the previous regime's tenure. The Knicks come out and have their best start in 19 years and it is more fun to bash the moves that got them to where they are winning and playing well then to root for them?

TKF is a troll. Don't waste your time.

Sorry but TKF is not a Troll. He has been here longer than you and he knows his Knicks.

As for the theme of this post, I have not been posting much lately as I have been bored by the topics. So kudos to a good topic. I am also one of the fans who hated to see Lee, Gallo, Chandler and Lin leave. I must now say that the current team is better than any team would have been if those guys were still here. HTat being said, I will ALWAYS root for them to do well.

The main reason NY is better is that Carmelo may have finally turned the corner and now understands what it takes to be a winner. I am still not convinced but I am encouraged. Lin is doing well in Houston but Felton is a MUCH better fit for this team.

In the end, this team is better because of Melo and the types of players they brought in. All of them are Defensive minded and/or intelligent players that have been around and are ready to win. Kidd, Wallace, Camby, Prigioni, Brewer, KT.

Also Woodson may be the right coach at the right time. He seems to have the respect of the whole team and that is HUGE!

Exciting start and going forward, I think that they will be fine getting STAT and Shump back into the lineup. My big worry is long term health. They must be healthy going into the playoffs.

you're right and you're wrong. TK has been here for years and has been among the most respected of posters but, last week & the week before that, he was trolling the shyt on multiple threads. I even had to stop and ask if he was ok because the tone he had adopted was worrisome to anyone used to his previous posts.

I don't expect that to last and he seemed to be less stressed of late

DurzoBlint wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

NUPE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:Actually this board hasn't been overtaken by anybody. For the most part there are major differences of opinion on where we're headed and life cycle of the current group but not a big deal as long as everyone stays consistent where they stand in discussions....

Instead of making a thread such as this one....you could have easily started a thread touching on all the things you like and have seen in the 5gms thus far. Nope you went stoke the FLAME route with a very BROAD stroke

If you go to a Rocket forum you'll see them complaining about various things concerning their club but every fan there could be penning Hallmark posts on the bright future and flexibility they have going forward. Of course not everyone is a robot or programmed as such, it's what makes us who we are as fans.

Guess what, eventually you come to find no matter what sport forum you go to, there will be splits here and there on major and minor issues.

For the record I've stated exactly this several times...."This could be the year I'm proven wrong on how I feel about the team"...before any game was played. I would have no problem if it happens. I've even complimented J.R. Smith a player I've loathed over the yrs for stepping up his play this season.

Great post... I would be happy to be proven wrong,but what I won't do, is bash former players that we have had on this team in order to justify the current direction.. doesn't matter if I like the direction or not...

And really why question if someone is a real knick fan because they don't like the current team... I mean a real fan is passionate about his team.. positive or negative... go to the rockets board and you will get feelings and opinions all over the place, and sometimes it really makes for interesting conversation...

forgive me for not being overjoyed after 5 games, I have been down this road before with this team.... and that is with a team of guys I liked and believed in... this group? Is going to have to earn my fandom....EARN IT!!!

Knicks come out of training camp and lose a ton of games every year during the previous regime's tenure. The Knicks come out and have their best start in 19 years and it is more fun to bash the moves that got them to where they are winning and playing well then to root for them?

TKF is a troll. Don't waste your time.

Sorry but TKF is not a Troll. He has been here longer than you and he knows his Knicks.

As for the theme of this post, I have not been posting much lately as I have been bored by the topics. So kudos to a good topic. I am also one of the fans who hated to see Lee, Gallo, Chandler and Lin leave. I must now say that the current team is better than any team would have been if those guys were still here. HTat being said, I will ALWAYS root for them to do well.

The main reason NY is better is that Carmelo may have finally turned the corner and now understands what it takes to be a winner. I am still not convinced but I am encouraged. Lin is doing well in Houston but Felton is a MUCH better fit for this team.

In the end, this team is better because of Melo and the types of players they brought in. All of them are Defensive minded and/or intelligent players that have been around and are ready to win. Kidd, Wallace, Camby, Prigioni, Brewer, KT.

Also Woodson may be the right coach at the right time. He seems to have the respect of the whole team and that is HUGE!

Exciting start and going forward, I think that they will be fine getting STAT and Shump back into the lineup. My big worry is long term health. They must be healthy going into the playoffs.

you're right and you're wrong. TK has been here for years and has been among the most respected of posters but, last week & the week before that, he was trolling the shyt on multiple threads. I even had to stop and ask if he was ok because the tone he had adopted was worrisome to anyone used to his previous posts.

I don't expect that to last and he seemed to be less stressed of late

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

NUPE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:Actually this board hasn't been overtaken by anybody. For the most part there are major differences of opinion on where we're headed and life cycle of the current group but not a big deal as long as everyone stays consistent where they stand in discussions....

Instead of making a thread such as this one....you could have easily started a thread touching on all the things you like and have seen in the 5gms thus far. Nope you went stoke the FLAME route with a very BROAD stroke

If you go to a Rocket forum you'll see them complaining about various things concerning their club but every fan there could be penning Hallmark posts on the bright future and flexibility they have going forward. Of course not everyone is a robot or programmed as such, it's what makes us who we are as fans.

Guess what, eventually you come to find no matter what sport forum you go to, there will be splits here and there on major and minor issues.

For the record I've stated exactly this several times...."This could be the year I'm proven wrong on how I feel about the team"...before any game was played. I would have no problem if it happens. I've even complimented J.R. Smith a player I've loathed over the yrs for stepping up his play this season.

Great post... I would be happy to be proven wrong,but what I won't do, is bash former players that we have had on this team in order to justify the current direction.. doesn't matter if I like the direction or not...

And really why question if someone is a real knick fan because they don't like the current team... I mean a real fan is passionate about his team.. positive or negative... go to the rockets board and you will get feelings and opinions all over the place, and sometimes it really makes for interesting conversation...

forgive me for not being overjoyed after 5 games, I have been down this road before with this team.... and that is with a team of guys I liked and believed in... this group? Is going to have to earn my fandom....EARN IT!!!

Knicks come out of training camp and lose a ton of games every year during the previous regime's tenure. The Knicks come out and have their best start in 19 years and it is more fun to bash the moves that got them to where they are winning and playing well then to root for them?

TKF is a troll. Don't waste your time.

Sorry but TKF is not a Troll. He has been here longer than you and he knows his Knicks.

As for the theme of this post, I have not been posting much lately as I have been bored by the topics. So kudos to a good topic. I am also one of the fans who hated to see Lee, Gallo, Chandler and Lin leave. I must now say that the current team is better than any team would have been if those guys were still here. HTat being said, I will ALWAYS root for them to do well.

The main reason NY is better is that Carmelo may have finally turned the corner and now understands what it takes to be a winner. I am still not convinced but I am encouraged. Lin is doing well in Houston but Felton is a MUCH better fit for this team.

In the end, this team is better because of Melo and the types of players they brought in. All of them are Defensive minded and/or intelligent players that have been around and are ready to win. Kidd, Wallace, Camby, Prigioni, Brewer, KT.

Also Woodson may be the right coach at the right time. He seems to have the respect of the whole team and that is HUGE!

Exciting start and going forward, I think that they will be fine getting STAT and Shump back into the lineup. My big worry is long term health. They must be healthy going into the playoffs.

you're right and you're wrong. TK has been here for years and has been among the most respected of posters but, last week & the week before that, he was trolling the shyt on multiple threads. I even had to stop and ask if he was ok because the tone he had adopted was worrisome to anyone used to his previous posts.

I don't expect that to last and he seemed to be less stressed of late

This is a bit over the top IMO. TKF has been harsh on the team but he hasn't been name-calling or doing anything inappropriate. He just has a non-mainstream view that many don't want to hear.

Either you haven't been paying close enough attention or you have selective memory. There was a thread several months back where tkf went on a juvenile rant about 'wanting Dolan dead' or wanting to 'kill him'. Not to mention the numerous names he calls Melo from Donkey, to jackass, etc. Then, has to nerve to bash people for not being able to have a intelligent convo when all of his Melo conversations are extremely biased.

gunsnewing wrote:You guys are right. It is easier to get along when everyone is in tune with Isiah sucks. Maybe we need to start losing again

Nalod wrote:So the better the team does, the wider the gap?

we need to:

stop the hating and baiting!

This is from the other thread. This is the solution - stop baiting and stop taking the bait over the past. If it happened before opening day, what's the point in going over the same ground? We know where guys stand. Find new things to argue about as the season goes on. The Knicks aren't going 82-0.

This is the last reasonable thing I'm going to say on the subject.

tkf wrote:forgive me for not being overjoyed after 5 games, I have been down this road before with this team....

You mean like Linsanity???

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

NUPE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:Actually this board hasn't been overtaken by anybody. For the most part there are major differences of opinion on where we're headed and life cycle of the current group but not a big deal as long as everyone stays consistent where they stand in discussions....

Instead of making a thread such as this one....you could have easily started a thread touching on all the things you like and have seen in the 5gms thus far. Nope you went stoke the FLAME route with a very BROAD stroke

If you go to a Rocket forum you'll see them complaining about various things concerning their club but every fan there could be penning Hallmark posts on the bright future and flexibility they have going forward. Of course not everyone is a robot or programmed as such, it's what makes us who we are as fans.

Guess what, eventually you come to find no matter what sport forum you go to, there will be splits here and there on major and minor issues.

For the record I've stated exactly this several times...."This could be the year I'm proven wrong on how I feel about the team"...before any game was played. I would have no problem if it happens. I've even complimented J.R. Smith a player I've loathed over the yrs for stepping up his play this season.

Great post... I would be happy to be proven wrong,but what I won't do, is bash former players that we have had on this team in order to justify the current direction.. doesn't matter if I like the direction or not...

And really why question if someone is a real knick fan because they don't like the current team... I mean a real fan is passionate about his team.. positive or negative... go to the rockets board and you will get feelings and opinions all over the place, and sometimes it really makes for interesting conversation...

forgive me for not being overjoyed after 5 games, I have been down this road before with this team.... and that is with a team of guys I liked and believed in... this group? Is going to have to earn my fandom....EARN IT!!!

Knicks come out of training camp and lose a ton of games every year during the previous regime's tenure. The Knicks come out and have their best start in 19 years and it is more fun to bash the moves that got them to where they are winning and playing well then to root for them?

TKF is a troll. Don't waste your time.

Sorry but TKF is not a Troll. He has been here longer than you and he knows his Knicks.

As for the theme of this post, I have not been posting much lately as I have been bored by the topics. So kudos to a good topic. I am also one of the fans who hated to see Lee, Gallo, Chandler and Lin leave. I must now say that the current team is better than any team would have been if those guys were still here. HTat being said, I will ALWAYS root for them to do well.

The main reason NY is better is that Carmelo may have finally turned the corner and now understands what it takes to be a winner. I am still not convinced but I am encouraged. Lin is doing well in Houston but Felton is a MUCH better fit for this team.

In the end, this team is better because of Melo and the types of players they brought in. All of them are Defensive minded and/or intelligent players that have been around and are ready to win. Kidd, Wallace, Camby, Prigioni, Brewer, KT.

Also Woodson may be the right coach at the right time. He seems to have the respect of the whole team and that is HUGE!

Exciting start and going forward, I think that they will be fine getting STAT and Shump back into the lineup. My big worry is long term health. They must be healthy going into the playoffs.

you're right and you're wrong. TK has been here for years and has been among the most respected of posters but, last week & the week before that, he was trolling the shyt on multiple threads. I even had to stop and ask if he was ok because the tone he had adopted was worrisome to anyone used to his previous posts.

I don't expect that to last and he seemed to be less stressed of late

This is a bit over the top IMO. TKF has been harsh on the team but he hasn't been name-calling or doing anything inappropriate. He just has a non-mainstream view that many don't want to hear.

Either you haven't been paying close enough attention or you have selective memory. There was a thread several months back where tkf went on a juvenile rant about 'wanting Dolan dead' or wanting to 'kill him'. Not to mention the numerous names he calls Melo from Donkey, to jackass, etc. Then, has to nerve to bash people for not being able to have a intelligent convo when all of his Melo conversations are extremely biased.

I ask you to either produce that thread or apologize... if you don't I will take this up with the site mods.. because that is way out of line. I don't agree with wishing death on someone at all and to say that about me is slanderous even on an internet site....I use this name "TKF" on every site I sign up on and I do so proudly, but don't soil my name.., now I may have said I want dolan to dissapear, but to wish him dead? if I did that I will apologize, but I now challenge you to produce that... again if I said something like that I will go out of my way to correct it..

as far as carmelo I mean everything I say about him...

fishmike wrote:hey Killa... how about posting and improving the environment rather than just taking a dump and leaving?

There isnt a Knick fan not happy about the team playing well, but we have been down this road before.

Ive been 'all in' with this team before and recently. I remember a nice stretch... started the season losing but ended up going 21-9 over a 30 game stretch and were playing .550 ball. They had winning streaks of 8 games and 5 games to bounce back after a slow start. They had wins against the NBAs elite teams and beat the Spurs, Bulls, OKC, Melo's Nuggets... and then Dolan stepped in and traded all the young talent on the roster for Melo and we have won one playoff game since.

I want to believe this is it. I want to believe this is the new Knick culture. Im rooting for them to win. Last night was great. But are we building anything with the oldest roster ever in the NBA and one player currently on IR with real upside? Losers want to know!

BUilding anything? We are built to win now. We have one of the best teams in the league. All of our old players are complimentary pieces. Lose them all and we have a core of Melo, TYson, Felton, Shump, Amare, JR SMith. We'll need to retool with complimentary pieces. We can beat any team in this league, and u want to find a way to be unhappy about having a good team.

If u were honest u'd say: I'm still salty Lin and Gallo are gone and its been hard for me to get over it. Anything else is just camaflouge for that reality.

The Redundancy of topics by both the lover and the hater gets tiring.

The Romantic narrative depicting our guys early start into some epic quest of monumental proportions is quite amusing to a point. ITs good to be happy, its another to be over exuberant with no humor.

From what I am reading the exuberance is getting quite extreme. To read some of the comments on would thing Woodson is not coaching, "he is saving mens souls", Melo is not just upping his game, he is "returned to his childhood birth place as a victorious warrior having slain Lin and Gallo into nothing but memories", Sheed did not come out of retirement he, "Resurrected his spirit", JR smith is now a "repentant rehabilitated man intent on spreading joy", Camby, "has returned home to pull the franchise from the depths of dispair", KT is not an older player, he "Cheats death", and Jason Kidd, once loathed by knick fans is now "the elder statesman and scholar"........

The most important statistic seems to be which poster is more right than the other. IM sure Im guilty at some level also.

I get why so many have left. So many of posters have left over the years. I understand why. The true joy of the season is in the games, not the media and not the UK hype or the arguments.

Flame on boys. Im still here.