GodSaveTheKnicks
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gunsnewing wrote:GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:jrodmc wrote:holfresh wrote:GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:holfresh wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:IrishKnickFan wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:tkf wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly). If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court. Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so. Great post I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares. Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on. Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could. Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are. NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie" SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..
Ok.. bottom line Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser
For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right? Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed". You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was. You're letting your bias show as usual. Look Im not comparing lin to melo at all but be honest you are a little biased yourself for your hatred for lin. Now i agree the contract was too much but lin is a good guy Just calling a spade a spade. He made a money grab, he got it. I don't bear ill will towards him. He put himself before the team. So be it. People talk about JR Smith being a bonehead and not their cup of tea player, but he sacrificed multi millions and potential injury to settle for a meager 2 yr deal that's a fraction of one of Lin's years. One is balling, one is not. Lin is a mediocre player, and JR is a key cog and potential 6th man of the year on a playoff contending team. I thought everyone excepted that as fact..I can't believe people are still in denial or pretending like it didn't happen..And no all players don't do that... It's true. I mean, look at all the restricted free agents this offseason. Not all of them just blindly and selfishly signed large offers sheets offered to them without first asking themselves: Could my former team match this offer? If not, shouldn't I put the team before myself and either ask the team who put the offer sheet in to lower it so they can match or just tear that offer sheet up and ask my former team to just give me whatever they can spare? I think if you take a look at the restricted free agents from this past offseason and at NBA history in general you'll really open your eyes and see Jeremy Lin for what he really is guys. Trust me. Listen, I have and will always maintained, JR and Novak wanted to be her and made it happen..If Lin wanted to be here then he would be here...But I wont hate on him now...Maybe he thought with his skills the scrutiny would be unmanageable in NY...Frankly I'm happy he is Houston's problem... This is the healthiest outlook I've read in awhile. No need to hate or love the kid, other than the happy memories which will forever be a cherished footnote/set of highlights to Knickdom. It's not like he's IT or Marbles, right? The NBA, after all, is a business. Hopefully, Lin will be able to feed his kids someday, should he choose to have any. jrod! say it ain't so! don't join the bad guys. Reasons to Hate Jeremy Lin 1. He USED the Knicks for 26 games of production. 2. He couldn't have cared less about his teammates being manhandled by Miami. 3. I could see it in his eyes (as he was sitting on that bench) that Jeremy Lin was fearful of being exposed as a potential turnover machine ala losing out on millions, upon million of dollars come the offseason. Trust me, Jeremy Lin knew exactly what he was doing. Sat out for that contract in which he currenlty has. Lin sat out, at 75%-85% health, due to being fearful of being exposed by a very strong/athletic Miami Heat defense come postseason play. I COULD SEE IT IN HIS EYES!!! He should have played because he was definitely healthy enough to play!
yes i'm still posting on this GD thread Bad guys, really?? Maybe it's just me but the bad guys are the ones who say things like Lin eats dogs guns guns guns. the bad guy is Jeremy Lin aka the epitome of bad teammate! just you wait it's only a matter of time before he grows a fu manchu to steal away Harden's limelight.
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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