ChuckBuck wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:You know whats a shame, is that Jeremy Lin never earned his contract. Lin only A.) Played 26 regular season games before B.) Getting hurt while C.) Sitting out the final 17 regular season games while D.) Sitting out at 75-85% health while the Miami Heat murdered the Knicks during postseason play.

Lin looked guilty on that Knicks bench. You know why he looked guilty? Because he used the Knicks for his 26 games of production. He couldn't have cared less about his teammates being manhandled by Miami. He didn't even attempt to play a single minute during our Miami series, and you know why? Because he seen dollar signs were right around the corner. I could see it in his eyes (as he was sitting on that bench) that Jeremy Lin was fearful of being exposed as a potential turnover machine ala losing out on millions, upon million of dollars come the offseason. Trust me, Jeremy Lin knew exactly what he was doing. Sat out for that contract in which he currenlty has. Lin only put up 8 points and 3 assists while committing 8 turnovers against Miami during an 88-102 loss during the regular season. Lin sat out, at 75%-85% health, due to being fearful of being exposed by a very strong/athletic Miami Heat defense come postseason play.

Lin put his Harvard education to good use. He protected his investment, himself.

Never seen such a selfish player get a total free pass from the media. Looking forward to him being out of the league after this season.

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

Look Im not comparing lin to melo at all but be honest you are a little biased yourself for your hatred for lin. Now i agree the contract was too much but lin is a good guy

ChuckBuck wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:You know whats a shame, is that Jeremy Lin never earned his contract. Lin only A.) Played 26 regular season games before B.) Getting hurt while C.) Sitting out the final 17 regular season games while D.) Sitting out at 75-85% health while the Miami Heat murdered the Knicks during postseason play.

Lin looked guilty on that Knicks bench. You know why he looked guilty? Because he used the Knicks for his 26 games of production. He couldn't have cared less about his teammates being manhandled by Miami. He didn't even attempt to play a single minute during our Miami series, and you know why? Because he seen dollar signs were right around the corner. I could see it in his eyes (as he was sitting on that bench) that Jeremy Lin was fearful of being exposed as a potential turnover machine ala losing out on millions, upon million of dollars come the offseason. Trust me, Jeremy Lin knew exactly what he was doing. Sat out for that contract in which he currenlty has. Lin only put up 8 points and 3 assists while committing 8 turnovers against Miami during an 88-102 loss during the regular season. Lin sat out, at 75%-85% health, due to being fearful of being exposed by a very strong/athletic Miami Heat defense come postseason play.

Lin put his Harvard education to good use. He protected his investment, himself.

Never seen such a selfish player get a total free pass from the media. Looking forward to him being out of the league after this season.

did lin run over you dog or something? I mean im happy with felton/kidd/prigs but lin didnt do anything wrong

He didn't do anything wrong, he was just being smart, and protected himself from a lower payday that's all. Dollars and cents, my man.

So whats so bad about that. Every single player does thr same thing

IrishKnickFan wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

Look Im not comparing lin to melo at all but be honest you are a little biased yourself for your hatred for lin. Now i agree the contract was too much but lin is a good guy

Just calling a spade a spade. He made a money grab, he got it. I don't bear ill will towards him. He put himself before the team. So be it. People talk about JR Smith being a bonehead and not their cup of tea player, but he sacrificed multi millions and potential injury to settle for a meager 2 yr deal that's a fraction of one of Lin's years. One is balling, one is not. Lin is a mediocre player, and JR is a key cog and potential 6th man of the year on a playoff contending team.

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

where they were drafted is irrelevant, but if anything carmelo is the one underachieving...right?

this is not a comparison, I am just using your criteria to sum up a player..

You said it not me

I don't car about Garnett, allen and GAsol.. Bottom line.. they are ringed up, they are MVP's first team all NBA players..... No excuses right.. we are talking bottom line.. but why bring up Allen and gasol.. you are side barring bro.. No one has ever projected those two as franchise players, but moreso great sidekicks..

Again, this is your criteria... stick by it..

ChuckBuck wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

Look Im not comparing lin to melo at all but be honest you are a little biased yourself for your hatred for lin. Now i agree the contract was too much but lin is a good guy

Just calling a spade a spade. He made a money grab, he got it. I don't bear ill will towards him. He put himself before the team. So be it. People talk about JR Smith being a bonehead and not their cup of tea player, but he sacrificed multi millions and potential injury to settle for a meager 2 yr deal that's a fraction of one of Lin's years. One is balling, one is not. Lin is a mediocre player, and JR is a key cog and potential 6th man of the year on a playoff contending team.

NYKBocker wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

Look Im not comparing lin to melo at all but be honest you are a little biased yourself for your hatred for lin. Now i agree the contract was too much but lin is a good guy

Just calling a spade a spade. He made a money grab, he got it. I don't bear ill will towards him. He put himself before the team. So be it. People talk about JR Smith being a bonehead and not their cup of tea player, but he sacrificed multi millions and potential injury to settle for a meager 2 yr deal that's a fraction of one of Lin's years. One is balling, one is not. Lin is a mediocre player, and JR is a key cog and potential 6th man of the year on a playoff contending team.

Where is the money grab? Knicks said go get an offer and we will match up to a billion dollars. Knicks never offered a contract. What exactly is Lin's option?

He renegotiated with Morey and Houston. The first contract was $5m/$5m/$9m which is more than fair value.

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NYKMentality wrote:Of course it's two different players. Too different situations. Different teams. Coaches. Teammates. Fans. The whole 9. The only one to blame for this, is Jeremy Lin himself. No one physically forced Lin to sign a contract so high, in which the Knicks front office were forced to then have seconds thoughts. If he's ran out of the league or becomes a gigantic bust? Lin only has himself to blame for this. A true Knick at heart doesn't play 26 amazing games, makes a name for himself with rocking our iniform, the only team in which truly gave him a chance, the franchise that saved his basketball dream, a player who's now loved by the city, treated like a royal king, praised and repsected etc, etc and signs a contract so large, with the same exact team who cut him as practice trash. Then says he wishes he were still a Knick. He took his money, Most men and players would. It is what it is. Good for Lin, he's now a millionaire for life despite the fact that New York's marketing would've made him a potential billionaire (possibly).

If this isn't a good offensive system for Lin, it's his fault. He went to Harvard, right? He shoudl've used common sense, and remembered how he was treated with Houston his first go around. What type of offensive system they used/ran. He made a mentail mistake signing with the Rockets, of all teams. The truly great one's, the truly special one's, dominate the game of basketball regardless of head coach. From Jordan, to Shaq, Kobe, all the way back to Carmelo Anthony... The elite offensive players stand out. The cream always rises to the top. Not the ideal situation for Jeremy Lin? Was he then a product of a Mike D'Antoni coached/ran offense? He can't adjust on the fly? That sounds like a personal problem for Lin, not something die hard N.Y fans should feel sorry about. Not something Knick fans shouldn't mention in regards to his box score numbers and/or production on the basketball court.

Melo can be harped all over, and judged, and so can J.R Smith and Stoudemire, but yet.. Lin is too protected for that? Getting the Tebow treatment due to being a good person as if most players aren't? Is it because he's an underdog? Why do some fans of this franchise protect Lin from his critics? Melo's Nuggets franchise missed the playoffs during (I believe) 7-8 consecutive years without a playoff birth. Then the drafting of Melo happened. And that was that, during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference power house teams too. Denver then went on to land 7-8 consecutive trips to the postseason with Melo leading that franchise (on his back). Lets see if Jeremy Lin can do the same for a Houston franchise. If he's a franchise player, he'll rise to the top. If not? He'll continue to be mocked and rightfully so.

Great post

I never bought into this whole "Linsanity" but I never wished him ill will when he left and quite surprised at his performance thus far...I'm sure it will get better. This year, next yeat..after a coaching change but honestly.........who cares.

Like ChuckBuck said...Lets move on.

Some people and fans are stuck loving the "idea" of Linsanity. The Asian Christian boy from Harvard that could.

Honest truth, Jeremy Lin the player, he's just average or below average. No ways around it. Stats support this. Performances and the "eye test" support this. 26 game spike cannot remove who you are.

NBA is a bottom line league. "A proof is in the pudding league". Like many said and the originator Sheed said "Ball don't Lie"

SO you should completely understand why some of us didn't want anything do to do with melo.. as you said, " the proof is in the pudding".. the NBA is a bottom line league..

Ok.. bottom line

Carmelo has the worst playoff record of any player in the history of the NBA that has played at least 50 playoff games. He is the biggest loser

For a guy making max money and being treated as a franchise player, he never in his 9 year career, won an MVP, a scoring title, made first team all NBA, never made any all defense teams... FACT

Yea, this is a Bottom line league, and melo's bottom line sucks... so YOU out of all people after making such statements, about a guy who hasn't even played a full season in lin, should be even more willing to admit what some of feel about carmelo who has 9 year of work to look at. HE is just another volume chucker from west baltimore( I am not even giving him any Brooklyn cred), who is a talented streak scorer who is really just a good, not great, all around player.. Right?

Ehh...Same could've been said about other perennial all stars Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Pau Gasol before they "superteamed".

You're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Jeremy Lin, no comparison. One was drafted high, made the playoffs every year of his career, 5 All Star games, 2nd and 3rd Team All NBA Teams, USA Basketball Gold medalist. The other was a never was.

You're letting your bias show as usual.

Look Im not comparing lin to melo at all but be honest you are a little biased yourself for your hatred for lin. Now i agree the contract was too much but lin is a good guy

Just calling a spade a spade. He made a money grab, he got it. I don't bear ill will towards him. He put himself before the team. So be it. People talk about JR Smith being a bonehead and not their cup of tea player, but he sacrificed multi millions and potential injury to settle for a meager 2 yr deal that's a fraction of one of Lin's years. One is balling, one is not. Lin is a mediocre player, and JR is a key cog and potential 6th man of the year on a playoff contending team.

Where is the money grab? Knicks said go get an offer and we will match up to a billion dollars. Knicks never offered a contract. What exactly is Lin's option?

He renegotiated with Morey and Houston. The first contract was $5m/$5m/$9m which is more than fair value.