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babyKnicks
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8/20/2011 11:57 AM
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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technomaster
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8/22/2011 10:51 PM
You can see why the Knicks were excited about him. He's got nice form on his jumper and has the prototypical explosion and athleticism. With players like him, it'll be interesting how he performs when the team asks him to play more of a role player's game (aka fundamental basketball - open jumpers and drives to the basket - limited one-on-one creation).
On the Knicks, he has an excellent chance to be a super role player, with star potential. It remains to be seen where he'll get minutes, with Fields and TD also vying for the same minutes... not even mentioning Rautins. :) “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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martin
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8/22/2011 11:04 PM
technomaster wrote:You can see why the Knicks were excited about him. He's got nice form on his jumper and has the prototypical explosion and athleticism. With players like him, it'll be interesting how he performs when the team asks him to play more of a role player's game (aka fundamental basketball - open jumpers and drives to the basket - limited one-on-one creation). with guys like Amare and Melo on the team, it's exactly what you want, especially in the defensive mode of the equation. Hopefully the Knicks can somehow find a C in the same type of territory. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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nixluva
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8/23/2011 12:36 AM
What I like about Iman is that he already knew his role in the NBA and stated it before the draft. He's an energy guy, brings intense D and he can sprinkle in his great athletic ability when defenders aren't focused on him. Every interview Iman gives he talks about defending and that's not something we see with Knicks draft picks everyday.
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TheGame
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8/23/2011 8:09 AM
If Iman is going to be get any burn next season, he needs to learn how to shoot. Being high energy and playing great defense is okay for a PF, but a guard has to do more. Hopefully, this kid is shooting 500 jumpers a day and working on his mechanics. While he cannot work with the coaching staff, his agent should be able to get him with some ex-NBAers who can work on his jumpshot. If this kid can consistently hit an open jumper, he is going to play big minutes next year because he would probably be our best perimeter defender and our only perimeter player with an explosive-type of offensive game.
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nixluva
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8/23/2011 11:36 AM
TheGame wrote:If Iman is going to be get any burn next season, he needs to learn how to shoot. Being high energy and playing great defense is okay for a PF, but a guard has to do more. Hopefully, this kid is shooting 500 jumpers a day and working on his mechanics. While he cannot work with the coaching staff, his agent should be able to get him with some ex-NBAers who can work on his jumpshot. If this kid can consistently hit an open jumper, he is going to play big minutes next year because he would probably be our best perimeter defender and our only perimeter player with an explosive-type of offensive game. Iman can already shoot!!! He actually shot 47% from 2 pt range and 80% from the line. Guys that can't shoot don't do that. Looking at his jumper you see that his form is smooth. What killed him was taking too many bad 3's. I think he can hit 3's, but when you force it then you end up with poor %. I think this kid is gonna be a steal of the draft. He's got so many positives and very few negatives. In fact I find it funny that people knock him for poor shooting when he does everything else very well. The kid defends, rebounds, pushes the ball, penetrates and finishes, draws fouls and isn't as bad a passer as it may seem from the stats. You put a kid like this in a real system with Superstars to pass to and he could end up being another Rondo. Since he's 6-5, his line of sight in the offense should be very good. In college they needed him to be a scorer, which wasn't his real personality. He wanted to be more of a passer, but they needed him to be aggressive offensively. All of this in the most impressive physical package in the draft!!! Iman doesn't need to force 3's. I want to see him concentrate on PnR and Drive and kick. |
Markji
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8/23/2011 12:21 PM
Yes, drive and kick. He seems to have a very quick first step. I'm excited. The one thing I don't have a feel for is Iman's mental toughness. He didn't play on a very good college team so it's hard to tell if he is clutch and/or a winner. I really hope so, because he can really be a valuable part of our success.
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nixluva
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8/23/2011 3:38 PM
Markji wrote:Yes, drive and kick. He seems to have a very quick first step. I'm excited. The one thing I don't have a feel for is Iman's mental toughness. He didn't play on a very good college team so it's hard to tell if he is clutch and/or a winner. I really hope so, because he can really be a valuable part of our success. Well he may not have a hit a lot of 3's but he surely wasn't scared to take them This video is game action against UNC. I saw Shumpert hitting the boards and I noticed on one play he really boxed out. No wonder he's such a good rebounder. Iman was good for about 6 rebs, 3 stls and about 6 FT's a game. When you take away the poor 3pt shooting he looks like a really good player. This is a player that doesn't waste minutes on the court. He's out there doing just about everything. If those who are down on the kid really look at his production they'd see this is a special kid. |
TheGame
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8/24/2011 9:50 AM
nixluva wrote:TheGame wrote:If Iman is going to be get any burn next season, he needs to learn how to shoot. Being high energy and playing great defense is okay for a PF, but a guard has to do more. Hopefully, this kid is shooting 500 jumpers a day and working on his mechanics. While he cannot work with the coaching staff, his agent should be able to get him with some ex-NBAers who can work on his jumpshot. If this kid can consistently hit an open jumper, he is going to play big minutes next year because he would probably be our best perimeter defender and our only perimeter player with an explosive-type of offensive game. This kid had plenty of people to pass to when Favors was on that squad and he still did not have great assist numbers. His ability to play the point full time is still a big question mark, which is why he needs to have the shooting ability to play SG. The college 3pt line is where alot of NBA shots are going to be taken. I guess we will not know until games start again, but hopefully this kid is doing more than just working on conditioning and dunking. Trust the Process
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nixluva
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8/24/2011 10:15 AM
TheGame wrote:nixluva wrote:TheGame wrote:If Iman is going to be get any burn next season, he needs to learn how to shoot. Being high energy and playing great defense is okay for a PF, but a guard has to do more. Hopefully, this kid is shooting 500 jumpers a day and working on his mechanics. While he cannot work with the coaching staff, his agent should be able to get him with some ex-NBAers who can work on his jumpshot. If this kid can consistently hit an open jumper, he is going to play big minutes next year because he would probably be our best perimeter defender and our only perimeter player with an explosive-type of offensive game. I'm not really that bothered by the low college assists. For one thing I don't think he had great coaching in college and that can have a huge impact on how a PG develops. They already replaced the coach he had. All I know is that like many young PG's he will need time to grow into the position. Aside from the great PG's most need time to fully develop their play making skills. Kyrie Irving avg'd 4.3 Assists. |
martin
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8/27/2011 5:11 PM
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matt
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8/27/2011 5:46 PM
the dude is an insane athlete.. some of those dunks were Nate-esque
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nixluva
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8/27/2011 8:33 PM
I just get the feeling that Iman is gonna surprise a lot of NBA people. As a prospect he was the most athletic player at the combines.
The most physically impressive PG at the Combine and he seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I just have always loved big guards and he's much more elusive, with a better handle and explosion to the hole than guys his size usually are. I think of guys like Derek Harper but Iman is in another class athletically. He'll be able to post up smaller guards and shoot over them and still be able to get by bigger guards. I found this little interview and pulled a snippet from it. http://www.knicksjournal.com/2011/08/knicks-guard-iman-shumpert-talks-rookie.html Q: I know that you’ve been doing a lot of training this summer. What are some things that you’ve been working on? |
TheGame
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8/29/2011 8:02 AM
I just saw another video of Iman working out. It just includes dunks and drives to the basket. This kid needs to be working on his 3pt shot and mid-range jumper. 500 shots a day minimum. I hope he is not simply working on conditioning and driving or else he will not be playing much when the season does start. If someone knows Iman or a person close to him, please tell him he needs to be working on extending the range on his jumper. He also should working with a NBA-level shooting coach. His agent should be able to find one.
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AnubisADL
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8/31/2011 4:07 PM LAST EDITED: 8/31/2011 4:30 PM
TheGame wrote:I just saw another video of Iman working out. It just includes dunks and drives to the basket. This kid needs to be working on his 3pt shot and mid-range jumper. 500 shots a day minimum. I hope he is not simply working on conditioning and driving or else he will not be playing much when the season does start. If someone knows Iman or a person close to him, please tell him he needs to be working on extending the range on his jumper. He also should working with a NBA-level shooting coach. His agent should be able to find one. Not necessarily. He isnt going to get many opportunities to shoot it this year anyway. I like him focusing on getting to the rim and finishing which will open things up for Melo and Amare when defenses collapse. Amare and Melo are more than capable of shooting teams out of the zone anyway. I felt we lacked a penetrating guard last year and relied way to much on jumpers. If we can get a poor mans Russell Westbrook I'd be doing back flips. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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