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5/3/2016  11:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2016  11:34 AM
Sometimes a team plays better or worse than its record. However, after looking at the advanced stats, I think the Yankees are legitimately playing sub .400 ball right now. The run differential, simple rating system, team WAR, and team WAA are all bad. The one silver lining is that almost all the pitchers' fielding independent stats are much better than their ERAs. So that means they may be having bad luck with balls dropping, or we have really bad fielding, or both. It does indicate that the pitchers have thrown a lot better than their ERAs indicate, though. The team's DWAR is -1.7, which means our fielders as a whole are doing a lot worse than a replacement level team (high minor league players) would do.
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5/10/2016  12:15 PM
Anyone have the ESPN Insider article on why the Yankees need to be sellers?
http://espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/insider/post?id=12361
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5/16/2016  8:42 AM
7-3 on the homestand. Chapman is for real. A few games where we actually score more than 1 run. This road trip is going to be telling.

Anyone watching/listening to the games now?

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5/22/2016  11:07 PM
Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500
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5/23/2016  12:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500

I don't expect the team to do much but hopefully they can be at least watchable and pump up the value of some of their trade chips

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5/23/2016  1:22 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500

I don't expect the team to do much but hopefully they can be at least watchable and pump up the value of some of their trade chips


Oh yeah, 5 years ago, the idea that Yankees fans were excited to have climbed back up to a .480 winning percentage would have seemed absurd.
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5/23/2016  2:25 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500

I don't expect the team to do much but hopefully they can be at least watchable and pump up the value of some of their trade chips


Oh yeah, 5 years ago, the idea that Yankees fans were excited to have climbed back up to a .480 winning percentage would have seemed absurd.

Always a ray of sunshine, Bonn.
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5/24/2016  7:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/24/2016  7:19 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500

I don't expect the team to do much but hopefully they can be at least watchable and pump up the value of some of their trade chips


Oh yeah, 5 years ago, the idea that Yankees fans were excited to have climbed back up to a .480 winning percentage would have seemed absurd.

Always a ray of sunshine, Bonn.

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How's this for sunshine then? I'm very optimistic that if they replace Cashman with a better GM, the GM can build a contender.
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5/24/2016  5:06 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500

I don't expect the team to do much but hopefully they can be at least watchable and pump up the value of some of their trade chips


Oh yeah, 5 years ago, the idea that Yankees fans were excited to have climbed back up to a .480 winning percentage would have seemed absurd.

Always a ray of sunshine, Bonn.

LOL - You know me!
How's this for sunshine then? I'm very optimistic that if they replace Cashman with a better GM, the GM can build a contender.

Mr. Net Negative. Only has optimism about addition by subtraction...

How about the fact that Georgie's boys aren't selling the whole farm system for some starphucque pitcher right now? Have any optimism about any of the prospects down there? Or are you so enamored with the Bosox now that you would have sold Judge, his kids, and anyone else in AAA for David Price?

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5/24/2016  5:27 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Hard to believe the team has almost made it back to .500

I don't expect the team to do much but hopefully they can be at least watchable and pump up the value of some of their trade chips


Oh yeah, 5 years ago, the idea that Yankees fans were excited to have climbed back up to a .480 winning percentage would have seemed absurd.

Always a ray of sunshine, Bonn.

LOL - You know me!
How's this for sunshine then? I'm very optimistic that if they replace Cashman with a better GM, the GM can build a contender.

Mr. Net Negative. Only has optimism about addition by subtraction...

How about the fact that Georgie's boys aren't selling the whole farm system for some starphucque pitcher right now? Have any optimism about any of the prospects down there? Or are you so enamored with the Bosox now that you would have sold Judge, his kids, and anyone else in AAA for David Price?


Eh I haven't read anything about this being a strong farm system.
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5/25/2016  7:26 AM
Considering Hank Steinbrener put the stop sign on the spending, Cashman did a pretty good job of working with nothing and turning some pieces we can build for the future
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5/27/2016  8:02 AM
Hard to believe CC is pitching like a strong all-star again! He's a guy who's easy to root for. I'm happy to see this.
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6/1/2016  9:07 AM
CC better keep it up. Maybe Joe G should suggest he get some of Pineda's salary this season.
Thank God we spent the 125MM on Tanaka, or we'd really be up the creek with the starting pitching. Our ace would be CC. If it wasn't for the lousy run support, he'd probably be the ace anyway right now.


I'm happy about the bullpen though. Good morning, Good afternoon, Good night. Sure hope they figure out a way to keep Miller.

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6/4/2016  10:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/4/2016  10:35 AM
Here was the cost per win in 2015 for each team. I'm pretty sure we have taken over first place this year. You'd have to think eventually the Steinbrenners will be sick of Cashman blowing their money.

Rank Team Payroll Wins Cost per Win
1 Los Angeles Dodgers 230,352,400 92 2,503,831
2 New York Yankees 213,472,900 87 2,453,711
3 Detroit Tigers 172,792,300 74 2,335,031
4 Boston Red Sox 168,691,900 78 2,162,717
5 Philadelphia Phillies 133,048,000 63 2,111,873
6 Washington Nationals 174,511,000 83 2,102,542
7 San Francisco Giants 166,495,900 84 1,982,095
8 Cincinnati Reds 117,732,300 64 1,839,567
9 Los Angeles Angels 146,449,600 85 1,722,936
10 San Diego Padres 126,619,600 74 1,711,076
11 Texas Rangers 144,816,900 88 1,645,646
12 Seattle Mariners 123,225,800 76 1,621,393
13 Baltimore Orioles 118,862,600 81 1,467,440
14 Chicago White Sox 110,712,900 76 1,456,748
15 Milwaukee Brewers 98,683,030 68 1,451,221
16 Colorado Rockies 98,261,170 68 1,445,017
17 Atlanta Braves 89,622,650 67 1,337,652
18 Minnesota Twins 108,262,000 83 1,304,362
19 Toronto Blue Jays 116,415,800 93 1,251,783
20 Chicago Cubs 117,164,500 97 1,207,882
21 St. Louis Cardinals 120,302,000 100 1,203,020
22 Miami Marlins 84,637,500 71 1,192,078
23 Kansas City Royals 112,914,500 95 1,188,574
24 Oakland Athletics 80,786,660 68 1,188,039
25 New York Mets 100,134,000 90 1,112,600
26 Cleveland Indians 87,746,770 81 1,083,293
27 Tampa Bay Rays 74,849,580 80 935,620
28 Pittsburgh Pirates 85,885,830 98 876,386
29 Arizona Diamondbacks 65,770,330 79 832,536
30 Houston Astros 69,064,200 86 803,072
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6/7/2016  4:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2016  4:47 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Here was the cost per win in 2015 for each team. I'm pretty sure we have taken over first place this year. You'd have to think eventually the Steinbrenners will be sick of Cashman blowing their money.

Rank Team Payroll Wins Cost per Win
1 Los Angeles Dodgers 230,352,400 92 2,503,831
2 New York Yankees 213,472,900 87 2,453,711
3 Detroit Tigers 172,792,300 74 2,335,031
4 Boston Red Sox 168,691,900 78 2,162,717
5 Philadelphia Phillies 133,048,000 63 2,111,873
6 Washington Nationals 174,511,000 83 2,102,542
7 San Francisco Giants 166,495,900 84 1,982,095
8 Cincinnati Reds 117,732,300 64 1,839,567
9 Los Angeles Angels 146,449,600 85 1,722,936
10 San Diego Padres 126,619,600 74 1,711,076
11 Texas Rangers 144,816,900 88 1,645,646
12 Seattle Mariners 123,225,800 76 1,621,393
13 Baltimore Orioles 118,862,600 81 1,467,440
14 Chicago White Sox 110,712,900 76 1,456,748
15 Milwaukee Brewers 98,683,030 68 1,451,221
16 Colorado Rockies 98,261,170 68 1,445,017
17 Atlanta Braves 89,622,650 67 1,337,652
18 Minnesota Twins 108,262,000 83 1,304,362
19 Toronto Blue Jays 116,415,800 93 1,251,783
20 Chicago Cubs 117,164,500 97 1,207,882
21 St. Louis Cardinals 120,302,000 100 1,203,020
22 Miami Marlins 84,637,500 71 1,192,078
23 Kansas City Royals 112,914,500 95 1,188,574
24 Oakland Athletics 80,786,660 68 1,188,039
25 New York Mets 100,134,000 90 1,112,600
26 Cleveland Indians 87,746,770 81 1,083,293
27 Tampa Bay Rays 74,849,580 80 935,620
28 Pittsburgh Pirates 85,885,830 98 876,386
29 Arizona Diamondbacks 65,770,330 79 832,536
30 Houston Astros 69,064,200 86 803,072

They tell him to do it. Cashman is not working alone and is not like nobody knows what he's going to do. Baseball is different than basketball. Even the big boss was alive he was running Cashman crazy. Cashman goes and gets whatever they want. That makes him the man actually. The Yankees are brewing something. Teixeira is done,.. Rob refsnyder is quietly finding his home at 1st. Yankees have great pitching foundation. Maybe they are one pitcher seat from having a complete staff. The offense is piecing together. They probably need to buy or trade for some power in the outfield... I think McCann and Gardner should go if they can be moved for some power. It's all good. Yanks are on their way up.

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6/29/2016  9:51 AM
It will be interesting to see if the team becomes sellers or desperately tries to squeeze out more wins this year. I don't think there's any quick fix that makes the team a contender. They're too far away. This is a legitimate .470 to .500 team, and I think they're legitimately on pace to be about 20 games out of first place and 25 to 30 behind the top teams in the league. No one, two, or even three transactions this year could make up for that. They have to think long-term.
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6/29/2016  11:19 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:It will be interesting to see if the team becomes sellers or desperately tries to squeeze out more wins this year. I don't think there's any quick fix that makes the team a contender. They're too far away. This is a legitimate .470 to .500 team, and I think they're legitimately on pace to be about 20 games out of first place and 25 to 30 behind the top teams in the league. No one, two, or even three transactions this year could make up for that. They have to think long-term.

I've said this before. I can't wait for them to blow. it. up. I think they can great deals for all three of our great relievers. I think they can get a great deal for Beltran. I'm sure we could get assets for Garnder and Ellsbury. I don't know what can be done with ARod and Texeira but **** it let's get these conversations started.

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6/29/2016  11:34 AM
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Bonn1997 wrote:It will be interesting to see if the team becomes sellers or desperately tries to squeeze out more wins this year. I don't think there's any quick fix that makes the team a contender. They're too far away. This is a legitimate .470 to .500 team, and I think they're legitimately on pace to be about 20 games out of first place and 25 to 30 behind the top teams in the league. No one, two, or even three transactions this year could make up for that. They have to think long-term.

I've said this before. I can't wait for them to blow. it. up. I think they can great deals for all three of our great relievers. I think they can get a great deal for Beltran. I'm sure we could get assets for Garnder and Ellsbury. I don't know what can be done with ARod and Texeira but **** it let's get these conversations started.


Yeah, if I could get assets for any veteran in his 30s on the team, I'd do that. And I think you're right the team over-invested in the bullpen. What's the point in having 3 awesome relievers on a .480 team?! The bullpen should be the finishing touch after the rest of the team is built, not the centerpiece of your team. They don't pitch enough innings. If it was a 3 inning game, it would be a different story.
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6/30/2016  8:43 AM
Also, as much as I love CC, this would be a perfect time to sell high. I think he has a no-trade clause but maybe he'd rather go to a contender anyway.
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7/7/2016  8:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/7/2016  8:03 AM
According to ESPN:
Executives with other teams say they haven't been told specifically by the Yankees that New York will execute a sell-off before the Aug. 1 trade deadline. Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner has not exactly climbed a mountain and shouted his intentions.

But rival evaluators say the Yankees are taking offers for Andrew Miller, Aroldis Chapman and other players right now, setting up the team to execute trades quickly whenever the club's leadership decides to refocus the organization's efforts on 2017.


That's good. I'm not convinced Cashman and the Steinbrenners actually know what they're doing though.
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