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jaydh
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8/30/2007  10:39 AM
i didn't know there could be no wildcard team at anytime. care to find this rule?
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8/30/2007  10:41 AM
Posted by jaydh:

i didn't know there could be no wildcard team at anytime. care to find this rule?

this discussion is moot b/c officially, the season CAN NOT end today b/c of the game discrepency between seattle in ny. so seattle is NOT in the wild card - that's my point.
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8/30/2007  10:44 AM
yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.
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What a gutsy performance by Rocket tonight... that's what you call a gamer... say what you want about the guy & how he may not have lived up to his contract this year, but man we needed that BAD, you gotta give him his props.

yes it was. I think people need to get past clemens trying to live up to that ridiculous contract. If he were to win the cy young, that still would not justify that type of deal. what we needed clemens for was to solidify the staff, a locker room presence and a guy who would go out and compete and keep us in games, and so far he has done that pretty much, last night epitomizes the type of gamer he is.....
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8/30/2007  10:49 AM
Posted by jaydh:

yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.

but not if there is a 1 game or less seperation between the teams.
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8/30/2007  4:14 PM
swept the sox. division title aspirations are still alive since we have 3 more with the sox in september.

but more immediately, we need to beat up tampa and take 2 of 3 from seattle. then we have 3 vs. kc.

seattle finishes with anaheim, then plays the en fuego cleveland indians, the yanks and detroit so perfect time for the yanks to get some room between them and seattle.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-30-2007 4:25 PM]
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8/30/2007  4:32 PM
Posted by jaydh:

yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.

If you wanna be trivial, then at the moment of this post, the Yankees ARE the wild card team. Bottom line is, the Yankees have a much better remaining schedule than Seattle and have a better team than Seattle.

(Oh yeah, and the Yankees STILL have a better record and a better team than the Mets!)
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by jaydh:

yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.

If you wanna be trivial, then at the moment of this post, the Yankees ARE the wild card team. Bottom line is, the Yankees have a much better remaining schedule than Seattle and have a better team than Seattle.

how was it being trivial? it was the truth. yankees have had one of the easiest 2nd half schedules in all of baseball, thats why they have turned it around.
Posted by Bonn1997:

(Oh yeah, and the Yankees STILL have a better record and a better team than the Mets!)

yea, if you don't include pitching.

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8/30/2007  4:45 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by jaydh:

yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.

If you wanna be trivial, then at the moment of this post, the Yankees ARE the wild card team. Bottom line is, the Yankees have a much better remaining schedule than Seattle and have a better team than Seattle.

how was it being trivial? it was the truth. yankees have had one of the easiest 2nd half schedules in all of baseball, thats why they have turned it around.
Posted by Bonn1997:

(Oh yeah, and the Yankees STILL have a better record and a better team than the Mets!)

yea, if you don't include pitching.

I don't follow the Yanks, but if they had an easy second half of the season doesn't it reason that they had a tough first half?
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8/30/2007  4:46 PM
When you play many bad teams consecutively it does wonders for your team.
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8/30/2007  5:00 PM
Posted by jaydh:

When you play many bad teams consecutively it does wonders for your team.

sure, same but the opposite when you play tougher teams. That's why they play the whole season to figure out division and wild card titles.
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Posted by martin:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by jaydh:

yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.

If you wanna be trivial, then at the moment of this post, the Yankees ARE the wild card team. Bottom line is, the Yankees have a much better remaining schedule than Seattle and have a better team than Seattle.

how was it being trivial? it was the truth. yankees have had one of the easiest 2nd half schedules in all of baseball, thats why they have turned it around.
Posted by Bonn1997:

(Oh yeah, and the Yankees STILL have a better record and a better team than the Mets!)

yea, if you don't include pitching.

I don't follow the Yanks, but if they had an easy second half of the season doesn't it reason that they had a tough first half?
No Met fan should be talking about easy schedules. The Mets are in a very weak league.
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Posted by martin:
Posted by jaydh:

When you play many bad teams consecutively it does wonders for your team.

sure, same but the opposite when you play tougher teams. That's why they play the whole season to figure out division and wild card titles.

His argument doesn't even work anyway. Post all-star break, the Yankees are 11-6 against the elite teams of the AL (those at least ten games over .500). They've been beating up on great teams, awful teams, and everything in between.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 08-30-2007 5:06 PM]
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8/30/2007  5:10 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by martin:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by jaydh:

yay we've come full circle back to my original post to Bonn, Yankees aren't leading the division nor or they wildcard team. Btw, it CAN happen in baseball where one of the teams doesn't play 162 games.

If you wanna be trivial, then at the moment of this post, the Yankees ARE the wild card team. Bottom line is, the Yankees have a much better remaining schedule than Seattle and have a better team than Seattle.

how was it being trivial? it was the truth. yankees have had one of the easiest 2nd half schedules in all of baseball, thats why they have turned it around.
Posted by Bonn1997:

(Oh yeah, and the Yankees STILL have a better record and a better team than the Mets!)

yea, if you don't include pitching.

I don't follow the Yanks, but if they had an easy second half of the season doesn't it reason that they had a tough first half?
No Met fan should be talking about easy schedules. The Mets are in a very weak league.

As a National League team, by definition the Mets get to play bad teams all the time.
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8/30/2007  5:11 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
No Met fan should be talking about easy schedules. The Mets are in a very weak league.

Outside of Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Angels and Seattle, who else is tough in that so superior of a league? Both leagues have an equal number of good and bad teams. Just because the AL is all-offense doesn't make it better.
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by martin:
Posted by jaydh:

When you play many bad teams consecutively it does wonders for your team.

sure, same but the opposite when you play tougher teams. That's why they play the whole season to figure out division and wild card titles.

His argument doesn't even work anyway. Post all-star break, the Yankees are 11-6 against the elite teams of the AL (those at least ten games over .500). They've been beating up on great teams, awful teams, and everything in between.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 08-30-2007 5:06 PM]

In the last few weeks, the Yankees have played Cleveland (Division leader), Detroit twice (Defending AL Champ and in the playoff race), LA Angels (Division leader) and Boston (Division leader and best record in baseball).

What is this Mets fan talking about exactly?

Oh and the Yankees are 12-8 in those games.
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Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Bonn1997:
No Met fan should be talking about easy schedules. The Mets are in a very weak league.

Outside of Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Angels and Seattle, who else is tough in that so superior of a league? Both leagues have an equal number of good and bad teams. Just because the AL is all-offense doesn't make it better.

Including the Yankees, that makes 6 AL teams that are better than ANY NL team.
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by martin:
Posted by jaydh:

When you play many bad teams consecutively it does wonders for your team.

sure, same but the opposite when you play tougher teams. That's why they play the whole season to figure out division and wild card titles.

His argument doesn't even work anyway. Post all-star break, the Yankees are 11-6 against the elite teams of the AL (those at least ten games over .500). They've been beating up on great teams, awful teams, and everything in between.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 08-30-2007 5:06 PM]

4 vs Tampa, 4 vs Toronto, 4 vs Tampa, 4 vs KC, 4 vs Baltimore, 3 vs CWS, 3 vs KC, 3 vs Toronto.... yea, thats not easy or anything.
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Bonn1997:
No Met fan should be talking about easy schedules. The Mets are in a very weak league.

Outside of Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Angels and Seattle, who else is tough in that so superior of a league? Both leagues have an equal number of good and bad teams. Just because the AL is all-offense doesn't make it better.

Including the Yankees, that makes 6 AL teams that are better than ANY NL team.

Thats funny, I'll give you Boston and LA but thats about it.
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Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Bonn1997:
No Met fan should be talking about easy schedules. The Mets are in a very weak league.

Outside of Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Angels and Seattle, who else is tough in that so superior of a league? Both leagues have an equal number of good and bad teams. Just because the AL is all-offense doesn't make it better.

Outside of the top five teams? You can't be serious. That's like saying, outside of Dallas, San Antoni, Houston, Phoenix, and Utah, who is so good in the west compared to the east of the NBA? Dude FIVE superior teams in one conference are more than enough to make the leagues totally imbalanced.
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